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[00:01:27] Hi, I'm Kirsten.

[00:01:44] I am Sasha.

[00:01:46] And this is Mess Magnets.

[00:01:47] We are truly back, baby.

[00:01:50] We're back, baby!

[00:01:54] Oh my God.

[00:01:55] I know that like, I feel like other folks say it, like Chappelle will be on a podcast and be like,

[00:02:01] we're back, baby!

[00:02:02] And I was like, yeah, you say that shit.

[00:02:05] But it's so funny when like we say it because we're obviously back most weeks.

[00:02:11] We have not missed a podcast episode, like dropping, I mean.

[00:02:16] I think we have missed.

[00:02:18] I think we took like one week off recently.

[00:02:20] Yeah, that's what I mean.

[00:02:22] It's just like we don't miss that many.

[00:02:23] It's one.

[00:02:24] It's like in any job you get a sick day.

[00:02:28] You get a PTO.

[00:02:30] Yeah.

[00:02:32] And not that we get a leave.

[00:02:33] When we miss a vacation podcast, but whatever, it's fine.

[00:02:36] Exactly.

[00:02:36] No, but it, I just always laugh because I'm just like, but like, we are truly back and it's been seven years.

[00:02:44] It feels like it's been so long.

[00:02:46] Because Mess Magnets will be there weekly.

[00:02:48] But also, and like, I know we didn't invent, like you didn't invent, like saying we're back, baby.

[00:02:54] Or saying baby like that at all.

[00:02:56] Never.

[00:02:57] But like, I do feel like when other people on the network say that, that it's like, it's from us.

[00:03:04] Like we are influencers in that way.

[00:03:07] Like, especially there are some things like Chappelle is always out here saying like, oh, Rob doesn't respect me and it shows.

[00:03:14] I said that first, but it was a private conversation and not on a podcast.

[00:03:19] And Chappelle just gets credit for that forever.

[00:03:23] Messed up.

[00:03:23] It's so sick and twisted.

[00:03:24] Yeah, I was gonna say I definitely know it from him.

[00:03:27] I will say.

[00:03:28] Oh, you unfortunately weren't there that that night.

[00:03:31] And once we're off the once we're off the podcast, I can tell you what it was about.

[00:03:36] Can't wait.

[00:03:37] But I just anyway, I just find it so funny because like, like I said, Mess Magnets is back most weeks.

[00:03:43] But we together maybe are not.

[00:03:46] Not it's it's hard.

[00:03:48] You've been traveling a lot.

[00:03:51] I actually make a New Year's resolution that I will only travel three or four times.

[00:03:58] And two of those are already booked, but they will each be for a month.

[00:04:03] No, I'm so serious.

[00:04:06] Like, I don't know.

[00:04:07] Like the opposite of everyone's New Year's resolution.

[00:04:11] I would not be traveling a lot.

[00:04:14] I and I think much like most people's New Year's resolutions.

[00:04:17] That's bullshit.

[00:04:18] I know.

[00:04:20] Because why did I say but you know, I haven't been to Greece.

[00:04:25] I've had enough.

[00:04:26] I'm quite literally sick.

[00:04:30] But yes, maybe we'll say it at the start.

[00:04:32] But yeah, I will be gone.

[00:04:33] Not next week.

[00:04:34] I think we should be able to record on.

[00:04:37] Yes.

[00:04:37] Yeah.

[00:04:38] Well, we're recording this December 19th.

[00:04:41] So we're talking about Christmas week.

[00:04:42] But I will be gone for a while.

[00:04:47] Yeah.

[00:04:47] And it's it's we I have weird feelings now because I'm going to India since my grandma passed

[00:04:54] and I was supposed to go for a long time to spend time with her.

[00:04:58] And she passed in October.

[00:05:00] So it's bizarro.

[00:05:02] And I'm like, now why did I schedule this damn trip?

[00:05:04] I know.

[00:05:05] I mean, I think that once you actually get there.

[00:05:09] Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot.

[00:05:12] That's really beautiful about the trip.

[00:05:14] And I think you're going to value the time.

[00:05:16] It's just not what you initially expected.

[00:05:19] I think you I think you need and deserve that time back in India.

[00:05:25] Like, like, have you really been able to like even process?

[00:05:28] No.

[00:05:29] Like, you know how cancers be like this is going to be a really emotional trip.

[00:05:35] But I think you'll be really healing for you as well.

[00:05:37] So I I am in favor, even though you'll be missing two to three weeks of mess.

[00:05:43] Yeah, just to right.

[00:05:45] I mean, math works.

[00:05:47] But that's the thing.

[00:05:49] Like, in theory, it's too.

[00:05:50] But I'm like, why should you have to worry about recording a podcast when you are literally

[00:05:55] like don't know what planet you're on?

[00:05:57] Oh, but we can just we can discuss that offline.

[00:06:01] We can circle back in the year on that one.

[00:06:03] Yeah, exactly.

[00:06:04] So that's why I'll be gone.

[00:06:06] Your girl's out.

[00:06:07] But I'll be seeing my friends from India, which is like crazy that I still have friends

[00:06:12] since like I mean, one person I don't even know when we became friends.

[00:06:16] Like I we've just been friends for as long as I can remember.

[00:06:20] So it's bizarre to like meet all these people again.

[00:06:24] And now they are like married with kids.

[00:06:26] But yeah, so amazing.

[00:06:28] It that's why I'll be out.

[00:06:30] I'll miss y'all.

[00:06:31] But well, most likely no, we will.

[00:06:35] No, we are set.

[00:06:37] We're recording.

[00:06:37] Yes.

[00:06:38] On December 23rd.

[00:06:39] The next episode is recording and I don't care what I have to do to make it happen.

[00:06:43] Like I swear to God, I said this when I was with Lavina.

[00:06:46] Like I'll do one alone if I have to do it.

[00:06:49] But like you're going to be there.

[00:06:51] Yeah, period.

[00:06:52] It's happening.

[00:06:53] OK, yeah.

[00:06:54] Or I'll do the 23rd alone till you get the week.

[00:06:58] Regardless, there will be an episode.

[00:07:00] We're playing no game.

[00:07:02] I mean, there'll be none miss regardless.

[00:07:04] It just is.

[00:07:04] Yeah, hopefully it will be both of us together and we will do everything in our power to make that happen.

[00:07:08] And if it doesn't come together, like we're just two girls, you know, I'm just a girl.

[00:07:13] OK, I have.

[00:07:16] Do you send Josh like I'm just a girl stuff?

[00:07:20] Um, I don't think I sent him stuff, but I think I like say it a lot.

[00:07:24] Yeah.

[00:07:24] So I just as a joke, obviously sent it to Carthic say like this video of this girl like having a fake credit card and the credit card is just like a piece of plastic that says I'm just a girl with the with the cat and the bow.

[00:07:39] Oh, that's so funny.

[00:07:40] I thought that was so funny.

[00:07:42] So I sent that to Carthic.

[00:07:44] He said no.

[00:07:45] He would always respond to no.

[00:07:47] And I was like, what?

[00:07:49] So we like got into a fight.

[00:07:51] Oh, oh, my God.

[00:07:53] Not not a real fight, obviously, because like, no, but he literally was like, that's not feminism.

[00:07:59] And I was like, I will literally fight.

[00:08:01] OK, so suddenly Carthic is being feminine.

[00:08:05] OK, sure.

[00:08:06] Now you care about feminism.

[00:08:09] Shut up.

[00:08:10] Interesting how he's only bringing up feminism as a gotcha towards a woman.

[00:08:15] No, I'm kidding.

[00:08:15] I we love Carthic.

[00:08:17] No.

[00:08:17] And that's how we can say this.

[00:08:21] But no, it was just so funny.

[00:08:22] Like he legit was like, no, that's like not funny.

[00:08:25] He's like, where do you get this stuff?

[00:08:27] Da da da.

[00:08:28] Mind you guys, if I'm in bed and I'll be like, oh, I need a little bit of water.

[00:08:34] The water just shows up.

[00:08:35] That ain't a water fairy in my house.

[00:08:38] Yeah.

[00:08:39] Filling up the water bottle is blue work.

[00:08:41] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[00:08:43] At least that's what we call it in my house.

[00:08:45] No, the truth.

[00:08:46] Literally the other day I was like, hey, don't forget to take the trash out.

[00:08:50] And he looks at me like, why can't you?

[00:08:51] And I was like, what?

[00:08:54] What?

[00:08:54] What is this?

[00:08:55] Yeah. But like if he saw you taking out a big bag of garbage, would he come take it from you and take it out?

[00:09:01] Or would he just like sit there?

[00:09:03] He would be like, fine.

[00:09:04] At least she's doing it once.

[00:09:06] Oh, my.

[00:09:06] See, if Josh was taking out a big bag of garbage, he would at least offer to take it out for me.

[00:09:11] I would.

[00:09:12] But granted, I am definitely like I wouldn't actually take it.

[00:09:17] Like I would make so many noises that like he would be like, OK, I'm taking it.

[00:09:21] It's like I this TikTok has lived run free in my brain for like two years.

[00:09:26] But it's this woman who like she asked her husband to build a bookshelf so many times and he just said he was going to do it.

[00:09:32] And then she just goes into the other room with the bookshelf and just starts like drilling into the sky to make the drill sound so that he comes in and takes it away from her.

[00:09:40] And that is how we weaponize incompetence.

[00:09:42] Correct.

[00:09:43] I will support it when women do it to men.

[00:09:47] I want to make it because I do it all the time.

[00:09:50] And Karthik does not listen to this podcast.

[00:09:53] I'll never know.

[00:09:55] And nobody tell him.

[00:09:56] Nobody.

[00:09:57] Nobody.

[00:09:57] You snitches.

[00:09:58] I will fight.

[00:09:59] I'll deny.

[00:10:00] Don't worry.

[00:10:00] Listen, has anyone.

[00:10:02] You know how Sasha feels about snitches.

[00:10:04] Literally don't play me.

[00:10:06] And you always you watch goose goose duck that I don't forget either.

[00:10:10] So here we are.

[00:10:11] You're good.

[00:10:11] OK, let's get into it.

[00:10:13] Yes.

[00:10:15] So it is officially time for voting for the official mess magnets first annual sexiest man alive 2024.

[00:10:24] We got a total of 32 different men were nominated for the honor.

[00:10:30] Mm hmm.

[00:10:30] Special shout outs to Chappelle and Phil T for being the two RGP podcasters who got nominated for sexiest man alive.

[00:10:39] I'm serious.

[00:10:39] Um, well, Chappelle was really trying to get it and he only got two nominations.

[00:10:45] So that's all I'm going to say about what's going on with your fans.

[00:10:49] Yeah, crazy work.

[00:10:50] Because in Houston, he was screaming.

[00:10:53] And I told everyone don't do it.

[00:10:55] OK, well, it turns out you're more powerful than him.

[00:10:58] So, you know, he laughed when I fell off a swing.

[00:11:02] So mortal enemies.

[00:11:04] Of course, he did.

[00:11:06] But also just to both sides it when someone falls down as long as they're not hurt.

[00:11:12] Would you point and laugh?

[00:11:14] Because that's what.

[00:11:15] OK, I would probably say, are you OK?

[00:11:17] And then when you said you were OK, I would fall down laughing.

[00:11:20] Then I will allow that because I was also laughing.

[00:11:23] But the point and laugh immediately.

[00:11:26] No, I literally.

[00:11:27] When you're a beanstalk in height is crazy.

[00:11:30] Sasha, in an Airbnb in 2019, I was staying with like Matt Liguori, Brian Scali, a bunch of podcasters.

[00:11:37] And, you know, the like Ikea, like wood frame chair with like.

[00:11:41] Yes.

[00:11:41] That like every Airbnb has.

[00:11:43] I was sitting in that.

[00:11:45] Guess what?

[00:11:45] The chair was clearly broken and had just been like pushed back together.

[00:11:49] And it literally collapsed.

[00:11:51] No.

[00:11:52] And what did Brian Scali do?

[00:11:54] He pointed and laughed.

[00:11:55] He pointed and laughed when a chair broke underneath me.

[00:11:58] Matt Liguori was like, are you OK?

[00:12:00] Oh my God.

[00:12:01] Same exact.

[00:12:02] Matt Liguori was sitting right by me and laughing.

[00:12:05] Oh, wait.

[00:12:07] We just ran it back because Matt was the person that was like, are you OK?

[00:12:11] He's a king.

[00:12:12] Matt and Joko were like, get up.

[00:12:15] Wow.

[00:12:15] OK.

[00:12:16] Yeah.

[00:12:16] Incredible.

[00:12:17] OK, so sexiest man alive.

[00:12:19] Yeah.

[00:12:20] We have our final five and a Google form has been set up for everybody to go vote.

[00:12:25] That is at tinyurl.com slash sexiest man.

[00:12:29] Twenty twenty four.

[00:12:31] Yes.

[00:12:31] Right there, baby.

[00:12:32] I should have just made it twenty four, but it's fine.

[00:12:34] It's fine.

[00:12:35] And so here are the final nominees for sexiest man alive.

[00:12:40] Twenty three.

[00:12:40] Drum roll, please.

[00:12:43] Jonathan Bailey got the most nominated of anybody, which may it is really been his year or like

[00:12:50] two years.

[00:12:51] And I think I will vote for him.

[00:12:54] Oh, OK.

[00:12:54] I mean, Manny Jacinto got the second most number of nominations.

[00:12:59] And I like I had forgotten what his like I know him on site.

[00:13:04] But like I had forgotten his name.

[00:13:07] So it was like a really fun joy when I was clicking the image next to his name.

[00:13:11] And he's like, oh, yes, absolutely.

[00:13:13] A hottie.

[00:13:14] Um, the next nominee was Glenn Powell.

[00:13:17] Yeah.

[00:13:18] Well, I can never vote for a UT man.

[00:13:21] You know what I mean?

[00:13:21] He's expected.

[00:13:22] But I feel like I would have been more likely to vote for him in the sexiest man alive.

[00:13:29] Twenty twenty three.

[00:13:29] If we had done it, you know, like I think twenty four, like his time may be a little bit over

[00:13:34] our fourth nominee, which is so funny because, listen, we're haters.

[00:13:39] We do nothing if not drag.

[00:13:41] But to be fair.

[00:13:43] Yeah.

[00:13:43] Chappelle got the same number of nominations as Glenn Powell did.

[00:13:47] So Brandon Chappelle is in the vote for sexiest man alive.

[00:13:50] Twenty twenty four.

[00:13:54] This is so funny to me.

[00:13:56] Like I am serious.

[00:13:59] Listen, we are mess magnets.

[00:14:01] This is messy.

[00:14:02] This is who we are.

[00:14:03] This is what we do.

[00:14:04] Traitors from our HAP is coming back.

[00:14:07] So I guess this is mess magnets contribution.

[00:14:11] I love it.

[00:14:12] Um, and then our fifth nominee.

[00:14:15] This was a write in candidate just based on last week's mess magnets.

[00:14:20] But Luigi Mangione step right up.

[00:14:23] This is crazy.

[00:14:26] Listen to me personally.

[00:14:28] Nothing sexier than class.

[00:14:30] Class work.

[00:14:31] Class.

[00:14:32] Uh, solidarity.

[00:14:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:14:34] He's not in the same classes us.

[00:14:36] And yet he was in solidarity with the working man.

[00:14:41] Yeah.

[00:14:41] And these new pictures of him like walking around with.

[00:14:46] We're on serious with this overfunded NYPD.

[00:14:49] So they have to use all this extra stuff.

[00:14:53] Killing me.

[00:14:54] Killing me.

[00:14:55] I was surprised he didn't roll up in a little thing.

[00:14:56] And he's shorter than I thought he was.

[00:14:57] He's.

[00:14:59] So that's so that makes this picture even funnier to me.

[00:15:03] It's.

[00:15:04] Listen, it is what it is.

[00:15:06] Um, but.

[00:15:09] Best of luck to him and his.

[00:15:11] Uh, didn't win the nomination.

[00:15:14] So very sad day for you.

[00:15:16] Didn't even nominate.

[00:15:17] Because I was like, it's not fair.

[00:15:20] It would just be one.

[00:15:21] And it would be me.

[00:15:22] I mean.

[00:15:24] That's okay.

[00:15:25] I'm if.

[00:15:25] Oh, we know how you feel and he's your sexiest man every year.

[00:15:30] Okay.

[00:15:30] That's my man.

[00:15:32] Like that's your man.

[00:15:33] And you know what?

[00:15:33] When I go to India, I'm gonna go outside his house and take a picture.

[00:15:37] So yeah.

[00:15:38] Maybe you'll meet him again.

[00:15:39] Imagine.

[00:15:41] Me and one nut.

[00:15:42] Oh my God.

[00:15:42] What if you like ran into him at a coffee shop?

[00:15:45] No, I would fall over.

[00:15:46] Like impossible.

[00:15:47] We'll get it.

[00:15:48] I hope it does not happen.

[00:15:49] I hope it does because at least now it's the time.

[00:15:51] When you could get a selfie when when you met him before you like wasn't that.

[00:15:56] I want autograph.

[00:15:57] Yeah.

[00:15:57] Yeah.

[00:15:58] Okay.

[00:16:00] So that anyways, again, those are our five finalists for sexiest man alive 2024.

[00:16:07] You can vote again at tiny URL dot com slash sexiest man 2024.

[00:16:13] Oh, I love it.

[00:16:15] I love it.

[00:16:16] And let's get your votes in baby.

[00:16:18] Let's get those votes in.

[00:16:23] Okay.

[00:16:24] The next part I'm gonna be so quick, but I just felt the need like this is a huge pop

[00:16:29] culture thing and then we do need to talk about it.

[00:16:32] The air store is over now.

[00:16:34] There are no more dates of the air is tour.

[00:16:36] I got to be at the final three.

[00:16:39] Yeah, it's amazing.

[00:16:40] I go.

[00:16:41] I went to two shows and I got extremely sick after both of them.

[00:16:44] So like stay safe out there, everybody.

[00:16:46] Um, but anyways, it's over now.

[00:16:49] Taylor's now also at her 35th birthday.

[00:16:51] She went to a children's hospital and was visiting sick kids and giving out signed copies of her

[00:16:56] book like very sweet stuff.

[00:16:58] I love I will say I do love anytime you see a video someone takes of Taylor Swift.

[00:17:03] She literally be like, hi, I'm Taylor.

[00:17:05] Nice to meet you as if anybody doesn't know her name, which I think is very sweet.

[00:17:09] Oh my God.

[00:17:09] Um, but Travis Kelsey surprise Taylor Swift with a surprise heiress tour wrap party.

[00:17:15] She thought she was going to an intimate dinner just with him, which explains like I saw a lot of

[00:17:19] people saying that's what she wore.

[00:17:22] Why would she wear such a basic dress?

[00:17:24] And it's like, well, she thought she was going to dinner.

[00:17:26] She didn't know.

[00:17:27] And also she's a little basic and that's okay.

[00:17:31] It's I mean, I feel like that's yeah for for someone with that height and that body like I just

[00:17:37] like she yeah, the dress is a little yeah, always though it this isn't the first

[00:17:43] Yeah, this is like this is not new.

[00:17:44] Like this is not the first dress still I will say I yeah again.

[00:17:48] She looks great in it.

[00:17:49] She's worn some ugly ass dresses.

[00:17:51] Yeah, this is a nice dress.

[00:17:53] I'm not complaining.

[00:17:55] Um, and so Travis Kelsey was there in his like tuxedo and tails that he wore when he showed

[00:18:01] up on stage during the tour for exactly one night in London.

[00:18:05] And here's what made me so uncomfortable.

[00:18:10] Um, Brittany Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes dressed up as Taylor and Travis for this party.

[00:18:17] I just find it so unsettling.

[00:18:20] I mean, I think you're just finally on the train we have been on when it comes to these

[00:18:24] two homes when I catch you the second I knew about the fantasy.

[00:18:31] The second I knew they existed I was on side with you.

[00:18:34] I just didn't know I like nothing to them and then I became aware and then I am but I feel like this is like particularly weirdo stuff to do.

[00:18:43] I think they were asked right to dress as like era so it's very funny.

[00:18:48] Taylor and Travis ever.

[00:18:51] Oh my god, Patrick and Travis look like this is so good like they're twinning.

[00:18:56] It's horrible.

[00:18:58] It's I do not think that was what was intended and it's weird.

[00:19:02] I think it's extremely weird but whatever.

[00:19:05] Um, as well for those of you who don't know during every era's tour date Taylor during the song 22 was wearing like a hat and she would give the hat to like a fan that was selected for like singing a lot during the beginning of the concert by Taylor nation.

[00:19:19] And at the party Travis gave her a 22 hat which I think is really cute.

[00:19:25] No, I love that.

[00:19:26] Um, like I really do just like believe in their love and think they're really cute.

[00:19:30] So, uh, listen, it's fine.

[00:19:33] It's me.

[00:19:34] Um, we'll see what happens now that she's not on tour.

[00:19:37] Uh, and, uh, I did see one fan commented that it did look like in some of the photos from this party Taylor's hands might have been a little bit blurred out.

[00:19:49] So people are clowning that maybe they're already engaged and we just don't know it.

[00:19:53] So stay tuned on that one, but that is your last.

[00:19:59] Eris tour news.

[00:20:00] I'm hopefully we won't have any Taylor Swift news for quite some times that Sasha doesn't have to hear me talk about anymore.

[00:20:07] No, it's fine.

[00:20:08] No, I love a good surprise parties.

[00:20:10] A good job.

[00:20:11] Travis Kelsey on throwing it because this is like my dream is that like all my friends and everyone I love is all together to celebrate me.

[00:20:23] My 40th birthday party.

[00:20:25] Um, that's incredible.

[00:20:27] I also want to say just for the record.

[00:20:29] Uh, I did watch the lifetime original movie that was based on Travis and Taylor's relationship and it is one of the worst pieces of media I've ever consumed in my life.

[00:20:41] I will maybe watch it every year.

[00:20:43] Uh, for as long as I live.

[00:20:45] You know what?

[00:20:46] Correct.

[00:20:47] Yeah.

[00:20:48] Honestly.

[00:20:48] Yes.

[00:20:49] I watched the like that Hanukkah movie.

[00:20:52] Um, and where it's like her just going to a Christmas.

[00:20:56] Um, like going to celebrate Christmas and she's Jewish.

[00:21:00] That's all it is.

[00:21:00] So it's very funny and it's terrible, but I think I would watch it.

[00:21:05] That at least I'm embarrassed.

[00:21:07] I would find that at least interesting to see more about someone's experience who's like, this is absolutely not.

[00:21:14] Yeah, but it's like boy mom.

[00:21:17] Oh, nevermind.

[00:21:18] And it's like, Oh, it's like she, her mother-in-law's a boy mom and or to be whatever boyfriend.

[00:21:25] If no, if we want to watch anything food.

[00:21:27] Um, they only eat like one piece of steak.

[00:21:30] No, if we want to watch something about a boy mom this holiday season, it's gotta be our little secret.

[00:21:36] Uh, with Lindsay.

[00:21:38] And Kristen Chenoweth playing the ultimate boy mom period and check out our coverage on nothing but Netflix.

[00:21:46] Yeah, Sasha was there.

[00:21:48] It was amazing.

[00:21:49] I know I took over your Lindsay Lohan.

[00:21:52] I mean, I only did one of the Lindsay Lohan movies and to be fair, my Netflix literally wouldn't let me watch that movie.

[00:21:59] I know I saw they were out.

[00:22:01] Because I think it was a hate crime against me personally by Netflix.

[00:22:06] Uh, I don't know.

[00:22:08] Oh, it's fine.

[00:22:09] I finally got to watch it.

[00:22:10] Okay, let's go into the next story, which is when you have brought.

[00:22:13] Oh my God.

[00:22:14] This is so nuts.

[00:22:15] Like actually.

[00:22:16] Okay.

[00:22:17] So let's talk about it.

[00:22:20] Okay.

[00:22:20] So I've been because I follow Cardi B online.

[00:22:23] So I've been seeing a lot of like her crash out a little bit.

[00:22:27] And there was a particular tweet of hers, which we'll get into which is what I was like.

[00:22:31] Oh, we're talking about this on best magnets.

[00:22:34] Because I just have so many feelings.

[00:22:36] So anyway, let's we we've already shared Cardi and offset, you know, are breaking up.

[00:22:41] Um, you know, I've been breaking up for seven years is what it feels like at this point.

[00:22:46] And, um, currently they're arguing on the timeline again.

[00:22:51] So no, why can't they argue behind closed doors?

[00:22:55] No, it's outrageous.

[00:22:57] And this, this is Cardi.

[00:22:59] So I understand.

[00:23:00] But like still my God, stop this.

[00:23:02] So after being spotted at the same nightclub in Miami over the weekend, um, off as offset celebrates his like 33rd birthday, um, seems to be like this whole drama of like offset was at the club.

[00:23:18] Then he's now following her around.

[00:23:23] And, um, yeah, so obviously folks were clowning him a little bit and he goes, Oh, does this look like a stalking to you?

[00:23:32] And it's a picture, I guess, from this week past weekend.

[00:23:35] Um, and it's like him just like straight up, like, have a picture with her or of her.

[00:23:42] So it's still weird.

[00:23:44] So then, um, Cardi gets onto spaces on Twitter and there's spaces.

[00:23:52] Yes.

[00:23:53] Um, and she's giving him like spite time and attention for one day.

[00:23:57] Um, but doesn't like mean it as like a future together.

[00:24:00] So I'm assuming she went back to, you know, yeah.

[00:24:06] Like right.

[00:24:07] Right.

[00:24:07] The train, but not like get onto the destination, get off at the destination.

[00:24:14] I, but that's the thing.

[00:24:15] It seems like with offset, she just keeps, she's on the train.

[00:24:19] She's off the train.

[00:24:19] She's back on the train again.

[00:24:21] Like it's like a hop on hop off bus tour over here.

[00:24:24] Yeah.

[00:24:24] And I don't want it and stop putting me in it.

[00:24:27] You see what I'm saying?

[00:24:28] Like, why are we?

[00:24:30] Yep.

[00:24:31] And then she even says like, oh, so dance.

[00:24:34] So dating because I'm single means I'm worried about dick.

[00:24:38] You sound like a dummy trying to be fake.

[00:24:41] Nice.

[00:24:42] After you did what you wanted from the beginning to push a narrative to these people.

[00:24:46] Congratulations.

[00:24:47] Fuck off.

[00:24:48] Sign the papers today.

[00:24:51] So I think he's mad because allegedly, right.

[00:24:55] She has been spending time with other men.

[00:24:58] We know that, um, say,

[00:25:00] Quan Diggs was one of the seems like community.

[00:25:05] Peanuts.

[00:25:06] So it's all like.

[00:25:08] I feel like the dynamic we see from them is like he treats her like shit.

[00:25:15] Yes.

[00:25:15] She tolerates it.

[00:25:17] Right.

[00:25:17] And then at a point she's like, okay, I'm done with this.

[00:25:20] And then when she is done with it, he's like, no, baby, take me back.

[00:25:24] How dare you be with someone else?

[00:25:26] Like we're obviously it's just you and me.

[00:25:29] And then it like they fall back into the pattern and it just happens over and over.

[00:25:33] It's so toxic.

[00:25:34] Millions.

[00:25:35] And I mean, obviously, like, again, I'm not in their relationship except for sometimes

[00:25:38] it feels like it based on the tweet.

[00:25:40] Take us out the group chat.

[00:25:42] Take us out of the group chat.

[00:25:45] Oh, my God.

[00:25:46] Yeah.

[00:25:47] So it's just.

[00:25:50] Bizarre.

[00:25:51] It's just strange and bizarre.

[00:25:53] And I pray for both like I want them to both be free of each other because I feel

[00:25:58] like and not that she needs it at all because she is literally studying imperfect.

[00:26:04] But imagine Cardi B having a post divorce glow up like she'll be achieving new heights.

[00:26:11] Just leave this loser alone, because then, of course, he's saying, oh, when you split the

[00:26:17] custody, I will.

[00:26:19] So then he also said called her single and miserable.

[00:26:23] Check the you know, because these last 10 spaces that she hosted mentioned me and

[00:26:29] you know, you're getting like basically flex because of him.

[00:26:32] And I'm like, shut up offset.

[00:26:34] Migos are done.

[00:26:35] Are divorce proceedings and papers not typically handled by lawyers?

[00:26:41] Like, can we go to the office and take this off of Twitter spaces?

[00:26:46] Mediation.

[00:26:47] Mediation.

[00:26:48] You need it.

[00:26:49] I literally need a mediator.

[00:26:50] That used to be my dream job.

[00:26:52] I didn't just want to be a lawyer.

[00:26:53] I wanted to be a mediator.

[00:26:55] I was like, I think I should be the one to decide who gets what.

[00:26:59] Like, I think that I could do that.

[00:27:01] And I still do believe that I would excel in that role.

[00:27:06] But I also now know more about the law and how I literally would never want to be a lawyer.

[00:27:12] So not going to happen.

[00:27:14] Fair, fair.

[00:27:15] So then she talks, Cardi also talks about single and miserable.

[00:27:18] No, you're just mad.

[00:27:19] I'm outside.

[00:27:20] I got three kids in my 30s, blah, blah, blah.

[00:27:23] Right. Like there are you offset has six kids.

[00:27:27] Why is offset mom shaming or anything like he's like, oh, you're a mom.

[00:27:32] Are you acting like this?

[00:27:33] Blah, blah, blah.

[00:27:35] Offset.

[00:27:35] And he's like, oh, what your daughter shouldn't have to deal with this.

[00:27:40] Yeah, she your your daughter should also not have to deal with a cheating ass father.

[00:27:44] How about that?

[00:27:45] I hate that shit so much.

[00:27:47] But oh, well, you're a mother.

[00:27:49] So I guess you're not allowed to be a person.

[00:27:51] But to be a father, I guess, means nothing.

[00:27:54] Yep.

[00:27:56] So it's just it's so annoying.

[00:28:01] And then, OK, it's just on top of that.

[00:28:07] She's still arguing, crashing out on Twitter.

[00:28:10] And then someone these one of these random like, you know, verify, like rap, whatever drama accounts was like Cardi B claims men prefer less attractive women because they're more submissive than perfect tense.

[00:28:25] And it's a picture of Cardi like without makeup.

[00:28:30] And she looks she still looks great.

[00:28:33] So there's a community note that says, you know, factually incorrect.

[00:28:37] Cardi was having a discussion about how men are intimidated by successful women who aren't easy to manipulate.

[00:28:44] She was also quoting a man who told her that he would date sixes over 10s right over his own.

[00:28:50] And it's also like we've seen enough on the Internet this week that men do not understand the difference between what a real person looks like and what someone all glammed up looks like after all that hubbub about Sydney Sweeney in a frickin bikini for literally no reason.

[00:29:04] Yeah, it's just oh my God, a brain rot, porn rot.

[00:29:09] And then obviously she like explains that as well.

[00:29:13] Then someone some idiot tweets you call yourself perfect 10.

[00:29:17] And this is where I just want to be like get off the Internet because her response was like I understand it, but I don't want this for her.

[00:29:30] No clock out clock out because she says I didn't but I am.

[00:29:34] I'm pretty face pretty frame little feet.

[00:29:38] Smell good never got an order even when it's that time of the month.

[00:29:43] Oh, it keeps going about.

[00:29:47] No, no, no, no, no.

[00:29:48] What happened?

[00:29:50] What is this?

[00:29:50] Don't say that.

[00:29:51] That's so weird.

[00:29:53] That's such a weird thing to say.

[00:29:55] Yeah, it's just terrible.

[00:30:28] It's terrible.

[00:30:31] I'm like, it's not like offset is ugly, but like all the things he does make him ugly.

[00:30:40] So like to do all this over him.

[00:30:45] It's just it's so ridiculous.

[00:30:47] And like, why are we crashing out over men?

[00:30:52] This is embarrassed and I'm embarrassed.

[00:30:55] Someone help my girl.

[00:30:57] Oh, yeah.

[00:30:59] Because listen, the mess magnets are nothing if not Cardi B fans.

[00:31:03] But like it's like don't piss me off.

[00:31:05] And like what does having small feet?

[00:31:08] What is this like freaking feudal China?

[00:31:10] Like what?

[00:31:11] It's feudal China.

[00:31:16] Like what are we talking about with some wall feet like feet binding?

[00:31:20] Shut up.

[00:31:23] I'm like, okay, so I'm and I also feel like it's it's so interesting, too, because like

[00:31:30] the most insight into like foot people I've ever gotten in my life is the episode of King

[00:31:36] of the Hill about it.

[00:31:37] And that's where like that's all about Peggy Hill because she has such giant feet that people

[00:31:42] want pictures of them.

[00:31:43] So I'm just like, I don't even understand.

[00:31:45] Like, what do they want?

[00:31:47] What do they want?

[00:31:48] I'm telling you.

[00:31:50] All I know is they don't want my feet because ain't nobody DMing me asking for feet pics

[00:31:54] and I would sell them.

[00:31:55] I would.

[00:31:57] Oh, my God.

[00:31:58] Anyways.

[00:31:59] Wow.

[00:32:01] Yeah.

[00:32:02] I won off the roller coaster.

[00:32:03] Yes.

[00:32:04] Take me out of the group chat.

[00:32:06] Thank you.

[00:32:06] And goodbye.

[00:32:08] Okay.

[00:32:08] Is there anything else on that one?

[00:32:10] Nope.

[00:32:10] But it's just I just wanted to share that tweet because that tweet really pissed me off.

[00:32:14] No, that's crazy.

[00:32:15] We had to talk about that one.

[00:32:17] We literally had to.

[00:32:19] Okay.

[00:32:20] Should we talk about Travis Hunter and oh my God.

[00:32:25] Yes.

[00:32:27] Um, Lena, uh, Lena, Lena, I think that's how you say her name.

[00:32:32] Um, but another one where I would like to be taken out of the group chat.

[00:32:37] Do you know what's going on here?

[00:32:39] If not, I don't look it up.

[00:32:41] Cause okay.

[00:32:41] I'm not, I'm not opening it.

[00:32:43] Tell me everything.

[00:32:47] All right.

[00:32:48] I just, I just want to be like, we're grownups and we don't need to be worried about children.

[00:32:53] All right.

[00:32:54] So let's talk about this.

[00:32:55] Travis Hunter is currently the newest Heisman winner.

[00:32:59] Um, Heisman is a trophy that the best college football player wins.

[00:33:03] So he just won it.

[00:33:05] Um, he's from the university of Colorado.

[00:33:07] Uh, and yeah, you won.

[00:33:09] Okay, great.

[00:33:09] So, and this is how like I was introduced to it.

[00:33:13] So he basically like when he was, when they said his name, his mom stood up, uh, his coach

[00:33:21] stood up and his coach is Deion Sanders.

[00:33:24] Not just like some rando off the street.

[00:33:26] Anyway, stood up and then his fiance, um, Leanna, Lena, it seemed like coach Sanders

[00:33:34] actually had to nudge her to stand up.

[00:33:37] Oh, and then she was the first.

[00:33:39] First one to sit back down.

[00:33:42] So that has caused like literally a tweet that says first one to stand up and last to

[00:33:47] stand first to sit down.

[00:33:50] Wait, and how old are these, the people involved in this?

[00:33:53] Just for my early twenties.

[00:33:55] Okay.

[00:33:56] I listen.

[00:33:57] They're college students.

[00:33:57] If I'm in my early twenties and I like, sure.

[00:34:03] Okay.

[00:34:03] I'm, I'm dating an athlete.

[00:34:05] I don't know.

[00:34:06] That's not something that probably would happen for me, but I'm trying to put myself in those

[00:34:11] shoes.

[00:34:12] I probably wouldn't want to stand up either.

[00:34:14] I'd be like, whatever.

[00:34:15] I don't, this isn't about me.

[00:34:16] I don't care.

[00:34:17] Yeah.

[00:34:18] So it's, and he's 21.

[00:34:20] So I think she's might be a little bit older.

[00:34:23] Yeah.

[00:34:23] I just looked her up.

[00:34:24] She's 23.

[00:34:25] Yeah.

[00:34:25] So yeah.

[00:34:26] So either way, they're, they're children.

[00:34:28] Um, so, okay.

[00:34:29] So that's number one.

[00:34:31] Then the second thing that happened is that he was at an Adidas event and at the event,

[00:34:38] there's a clip that someone, I think, you know, it's, it's like them lip sync moments,

[00:34:44] uh, that you hear her kind of say, do I have to stay?

[00:34:48] It's like different captions have come up, but he's taking pictures with fans and she's

[00:34:53] sitting there and she, to me, doesn't necessarily look the most happy, but I'm sure she's been there for

[00:34:59] hours just sitting.

[00:35:01] Um, and her legs are crossed, right?

[00:35:03] Like again, it's just giving like, she's tired.

[00:35:05] Like she's probably just like exhausted.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:06] She's probably bored and tired.

[00:35:08] Yes.

[00:35:09] She's standing there watching people take pictures of their fiance.

[00:35:12] Like, correct.

[00:35:13] Cool.

[00:35:14] Um, and again, this is an event that he's, I'm assuming paid to be at, but still.

[00:35:18] Yeah.

[00:35:19] So she says like, do I have to stay here the entire time?

[00:35:22] Allegedly.

[00:35:23] But either way, she said something like that.

[00:35:25] And folks are like, oh my God, who do you think you're me?

[00:35:29] Marrying, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[00:35:31] What are we doing?

[00:35:32] And in his Heisman speech, he thanked her before his own mom.

[00:35:37] And there was another clip for his mom that started trending where again, people are so

[00:35:43] stupid.

[00:35:44] Like, oh my God.

[00:35:45] When I tell y'all that TikTok is like ruined.

[00:35:48] Like brain because she literally said, cause she had him young.

[00:35:53] She said folks kept calling him a mistake.

[00:35:56] Like, but this is like the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

[00:36:00] So someone on Twitter writes, oh, she called him a mistake.

[00:36:04] Okay.

[00:36:05] You know, well, people don't know how to read anymore.

[00:36:09] They don't know how to understand what the point of a story was.

[00:36:12] So it doesn't surprise me at all.

[00:36:14] Yeah.

[00:36:15] So basically folks are just like running with like, he has no women, you know, to like holding

[00:36:21] him down, like in weird and sell shit.

[00:36:22] Right.

[00:36:23] So a lot of folks have been talking about it, whatever.

[00:36:26] But these two are like high school sweethearts.

[00:36:29] Um, and then she comes on and there are some like videos they found of her now basically

[00:36:36] saying that she wasn't into him before.

[00:36:39] Um, and she's like left him on read number one.

[00:36:42] The second time, um, there's another video that she.

[00:36:47] And, and I'll tell y'all why I'm sharing this because I actually think this is like, this

[00:36:52] isn't coming off as what she meant to do.

[00:36:55] So she's sharing about how like they're in love and such a good guy that he is.

[00:36:59] And she's like, I'm Hispanic.

[00:37:01] I think she says or Latina.

[00:37:03] Sorry.

[00:37:04] And, um, I like to drink.

[00:37:07] He doesn't.

[00:37:08] So he takes me to parties and then we'll sit outside while I go have fun and then drive

[00:37:13] as my DD.

[00:37:14] So people are like, oh my God, he's a, you know, like, I can't believe this.

[00:37:21] This is so embarrassing.

[00:37:22] He's like a Heisman winner.

[00:37:24] What's going on?

[00:37:25] Right.

[00:37:25] So it's just I many L's.

[00:37:27] Okay.

[00:37:27] I, and I can just tell that like the people with these complaints are just not people that

[00:37:32] I fuck with because I'm just like, I don't understand what's so embarrassing.

[00:37:35] Yeah.

[00:37:36] I mean, I, okay.

[00:37:37] And then he, so here.

[00:37:38] Yeah.

[00:37:39] So this is like kind of the very high level stuff.

[00:37:41] Like if y'all there's like 14 minute videos that she has made now reacting and you know,

[00:37:46] refuting everything.

[00:37:47] I don't care.

[00:37:48] Um, I want to bring it up cause it's all over my freaking timeline and I'm over it because they're

[00:37:53] like, I don't care for children.

[00:37:54] Number one.

[00:37:55] Secondly, I think she's just lacks a media training.

[00:37:58] And I don't think she like understands how to like correctly, you know, handle all this

[00:38:03] like new fame.

[00:38:04] And then I can't imagine when you're a young woman and all this like hate comes your way.

[00:38:09] Um, and so basically her answers were, I didn't want to take the shine away from mom and everyone

[00:38:16] else.

[00:38:16] That's why I stayed seated because I didn't know what I should do.

[00:38:20] And then coach told me like, Hey, get up.

[00:38:22] Like, you know, then it's okay.

[00:38:24] That's number one.

[00:38:25] And secondly, she was saying that the reason I left his DMS unanswered is because he was

[00:38:30] actually in a relationship with someone else.

[00:38:33] And I am like a girl's girl.

[00:38:35] Again, she should not have said that.

[00:38:37] Yeah, exactly.

[00:38:39] I, but it's also like, this is obviously like her fiance is like a really amazing football

[00:38:44] player.

[00:38:44] Like I'm sure is like about to go be drafted to the NFL and have like a big career is like

[00:38:50] the goal.

[00:38:50] Right.

[00:38:51] Yep.

[00:38:52] And, but this is the very beginning.

[00:38:54] Like she's quite literally just a girl.

[00:38:57] Yeah.

[00:38:58] So it's just, it's really weird.

[00:39:01] And like a lot of like athletes are chiming in like male athletes and are, you know, like,

[00:39:06] Oh, we all learned the hard way.

[00:39:08] He will too.

[00:39:09] But like just all this kind of just like weird shit, man.

[00:39:12] And, um, it's just the Adidas event.

[00:39:16] She also says that she was asking, should I go home with the family or do you want me

[00:39:24] to stay here?

[00:39:25] But I guess it, like, according to her, it got clipped another way.

[00:39:30] I'm sure there was a little bit of like boredom on account that she is young.

[00:39:35] I probably just doesn't want to sit there with him the whole time.

[00:39:39] No one's there to see her.

[00:39:41] Like, who?

[00:39:42] Yeah.

[00:39:43] So I think it's just like overall terrible and messy.

[00:39:48] Yeah.

[00:39:49] Like I, I, to me, all of this seems like such low grade mass that has been blown totally

[00:39:56] out of proportion.

[00:39:57] Mm hmm.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:59] So I just think that his family needs media training and it's more that than anything

[00:40:03] else.

[00:40:04] And stop being weird with kids.

[00:40:07] Like at the end of the day, they're children and these like adults projecting their weird

[00:40:11] shit onto them is weak, like bizarre.

[00:40:14] And Angel Reese said it best where, um, Angel Reese is a basketball player in case folks didn't

[00:40:21] know.

[00:40:22] She plays with WNBA and, um, says, I don't know that boy at all.

[00:40:26] I'm just supporting another athlete.

[00:40:28] Why do y'all care so much?

[00:40:30] Again, they are happy.

[00:40:32] Y'all want to be internet relationship experts so bad.

[00:40:35] This is why we want to keep things private because you're always got to try to find something.

[00:40:40] And, and she well knows, cause we have talked about Angel Reese on this very podcast before.

[00:40:45] Mm hmm.

[00:40:46] Hundred percent.

[00:40:47] And he's also like talked it through, um, and said a lot of stuff as well.

[00:40:54] Um, and he like stood up for her and he's like, I think you guys just haven't been in

[00:40:58] our relationship.

[00:41:00] That's Travis Hunter said that, but y'all hate on me.

[00:41:03] Then go hate on my girl, bro.

[00:41:05] I feel the same thing.

[00:41:06] She feels we with each other.

[00:41:08] So he's ride or die.

[00:41:09] And he's like, you freaking clickbait pages can go to hell.

[00:41:13] That's iconic.

[00:41:14] Yeah, I love it.

[00:41:16] So that's like the, yeah.

[00:41:17] So that's all I was like, don't, don't read it.

[00:41:19] Cause I want you to.

[00:41:20] Yeah, no, I'm so I'm glad to just get to respond in that situation.

[00:41:24] But like enough, enough is enough.

[00:41:28] Exactly.

[00:41:28] Uh, it's going to be, it's the, they're so young.

[00:41:32] It's going to be fine.

[00:41:34] But yeah.

[00:41:35] So if you're seeing why like Travis Hunter or Leanna, um, Leanna, Leanna is on your timeline.

[00:41:41] That's why.

[00:41:42] Wow.

[00:41:44] Incredible.

[00:41:45] Um, okay.

[00:41:47] I had put like a couple of more quick bitey things in here, but I took them out in the interest of time.

[00:41:53] Because I have a really long anonymous for you.

[00:41:58] And I'm really excited.

[00:42:00] I've been saving this one.

[00:42:02] Um, I'm really excited to get into it.

[00:42:06] I think you're going to have some good insights.

[00:42:07] And so let's just do it.

[00:42:09] Yeah.

[00:42:10] Okay.

[00:42:11] So our messenger says, this is a deep dive into one of the messiest situations I've ever been in.

[00:42:18] And I am telling you the story now 10 years later, and it still feels hard to believe it even happened.

[00:42:23] But I promise every word of this is 100% true.

[00:42:28] And I, listen, I know who this is based on their email address.

[00:42:31] I trust them to have told us the truth.

[00:42:33] I'm just going to say that up front.

[00:42:34] Some of them, we don't know the messenger and I'm like, maybe it's fake.

[00:42:37] Maybe it's real.

[00:42:39] I believe wholeheartedly that this is 100% accurate.

[00:42:42] So just be ready.

[00:42:44] Okay.

[00:42:44] Yes.

[00:42:45] Yes.

[00:42:45] Yes.

[00:42:46] So when our messenger was a freshman in college, she was very nervous about making new friends at college because most of the high school friends had gone to different schools.

[00:42:55] Mm hmm.

[00:42:56] She was at the same college as her sister, who is two years older than her.

[00:43:01] And she said, well, why don't you go out for the service sorority that I'm in?

[00:43:06] It's a great day to make friends.

[00:43:08] Um, one of our messengers, older neighborhood friends from home was also in the same service sorority.

[00:43:13] And she liked the idea of doing service projects like volunteering at the women's shelter, helping with after school programs, food banks, community builds, that kind of thing.

[00:43:22] Yeah.

[00:43:23] So she was like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go for this.

[00:43:26] Yes.

[00:43:27] So everything started out great.

[00:43:29] Our messenger was accepted through the initial meet and greet and then entered the semester long pledge phase.

[00:43:36] So this is some pledge phase drama for a service sorority.

[00:43:40] She knew going in that this phase would be intense.

[00:43:43] They had to schedule one on one interviews with all 70 current sisters and the 30 or so pledges document the conversations perform 20 hours of community service, attend sisterhood events, and make it past three separate vote out periods.

[00:43:59] Okay.

[00:44:00] And our message says that this people do they have that they can do all this?

[00:44:04] Well, there were 70 current sisters in 30 or so pledges.

[00:44:08] Right.

[00:44:08] I just like that's crazy.

[00:44:10] And so our messenger says that this might sound relatively standard for a sisterhood organization.

[00:44:16] Um, she doesn't really know because she didn't have anything else to compare it to at the time.

[00:44:20] Um, our messenger wasn't too worried.

[00:44:23] She's a hard worker and an overachiever, but she soon found out that these requirements are not as straightforward as they were initially led to believe.

[00:44:31] Okay.

[00:44:31] So people started getting voted out during the first few votes for things like seeming too enthusiastic or writing with the wrong colored pen.

[00:44:39] Oh, brother.

[00:44:40] This is not the organization you need to be part of.

[00:44:43] Um, our messenger was pulled aside by the pledge moms and told that because her like biological sister was already in the sorority.

[00:44:51] She'd be scrutinized twice as much as all of the other pledges to make sure it didn't look like they were going easy on her.

[00:44:58] Bizarre.

[00:44:58] Our legacies should just get in, but okay.

[00:45:01] Our messenger says I'm a little, I was a little confused as to why I couldn't just be held to the same standard as everyone else, but I knew that I was doing everything right.

[00:45:08] So I tried not to let it get to me.

[00:45:09] It should be easier for legacies.

[00:45:12] That's one.

[00:45:13] That's why this was like specifically mentioned as like a service sorority.

[00:45:17] Is that different or?

[00:45:18] Yeah.

[00:45:19] So tech, technically, if you're only a service organizer, like for a sorority, I think that you only end up doing like service projects.

[00:45:30] Like, do you do sisterhood stuff?

[00:45:31] I don't know.

[00:45:32] It's giving.

[00:45:34] That's all they do.

[00:45:35] Okay.

[00:45:36] Yeah.

[00:45:37] Good to know.

[00:45:37] Because again, as I've said many times, we don't have sororities like that.

[00:45:41] Yeah.

[00:45:41] Like, I don't want to sound rude.

[00:45:42] It's just, it's different than like maybe the traditional Greek letter organizations that you think about.

[00:45:48] Okay.

[00:45:49] Good to know.

[00:45:50] Because I was required to do, how many did she say for pledging?

[00:45:54] I think she had 20 hours of community service.

[00:45:56] Yeah.

[00:45:56] Like I had to do 50.

[00:45:58] But did you have to have 100 one-on-one meetings?

[00:46:01] No.

[00:46:03] Because like, I feel like that takes up a lot of those hours as well.

[00:46:07] Yeah.

[00:46:07] That's what I'm saying.

[00:46:08] So it just like, I mean, and each organization has different like needs, but yeah, we, we had

[00:46:13] to have like, I think 50 community service hours.

[00:46:16] Oh yeah.

[00:46:16] They do have to attend sisterhood events.

[00:46:19] So, but yeah, I think that our service organizations are still different.

[00:46:23] Service sororities, sorry.

[00:46:24] Are different.

[00:46:24] That's good to know.

[00:46:26] Yeah.

[00:46:27] Okay.

[00:46:27] So our messenger was nominated as one of the pledge class leaders made great connections

[00:46:31] with other sisters and pledges, but started to notice more and more that certain things

[00:46:36] were kind of off.

[00:46:37] Mm hmm.

[00:46:39] Um, after the second round of voting, it was down to about 16 girls left in the pledge

[00:46:43] class.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:45] And they had been repeatedly told there is not a set number of girls.

[00:46:49] They can accept.

[00:46:49] You're not competing against each other for spots.

[00:46:52] Everyone left at this point had met all the requirements, but they were still losing

[00:46:56] people for some reason.

[00:46:59] Um, this is our own nuts to me.

[00:47:02] Yeah.

[00:47:02] This is a crazy one because we like to keep girls.

[00:47:06] So yeah, like, it's just like, it's an, and our, our messenger is like real life sister

[00:47:11] said, this is really odd.

[00:47:13] Normally we accept a lot more people.

[00:47:15] I don't know why everyone is being so much harsher at voting this year.

[00:47:20] Yeah.

[00:47:21] I mean, if you have 70 girls out of that, how many are seniors?

[00:47:24] You at least need to replenish the senior class at plus the more.

[00:47:29] So math, they math in on this.

[00:47:31] So one more thing to know about this is this sorority was not Panhellenic.

[00:47:36] It only exists at this one college.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:39] There is no national chapter, no governing body over the leadership team and no guidelines

[00:47:43] for the president to follow in terms of fairness, inclusion or transparency.

[00:47:47] Yeah.

[00:47:48] That happened.

[00:47:49] And there, there was a lot of secrecy as well.

[00:47:52] They were all told that it was that they were forbidden from asking any of the sisters

[00:47:57] why people were getting voted out.

[00:47:58] And if it was ever found out that you had asked, you would get a warning strike against

[00:48:02] you.

[00:48:06] Um, everyone was told to just admit whatever it was without trying to explain, give excuses

[00:48:11] or defend themselves.

[00:48:12] So essentially the sisters are always right.

[00:48:15] And the pledges are always wrong.

[00:48:16] Once again, our messenger.

[00:48:18] I mean, that's pledging.

[00:48:19] Yeah.

[00:48:19] Which I mean, and again, like it's, I don't know about that, but I have to believe you.

[00:48:24] So again, our messenger is kind of sketched out by the concept, but was like, well, I'm

[00:48:27] doing everything right.

[00:48:28] So it shouldn't matter.

[00:48:29] Right?

[00:48:31] I mean, yeah.

[00:48:34] Yeah.

[00:48:34] I don't want to give too much away about my, our process.

[00:48:37] It's just, I'm very like, I'm very confused at what the end goal is here.

[00:48:42] And I know we'll know more in a second, but like, it's funny because that's why like when

[00:48:47] sometimes you're pledging, like, oh yeah, nothing pledges technically do is right.

[00:48:51] Or you always have to find some thing to give consequences.

[00:48:55] Like it's not to drop them unless they're like the droppable offenses for us were very quickly

[00:49:03] outlined, you know, in our first meeting.

[00:49:07] And I'm, I'm assuming that being too enthusiastic or using the wrong color pen were not included.

[00:49:12] And I know that would be a consequence to use that because to use some color anyway, but

[00:49:17] but like, again, that's like silly shit to do to like irritate, not necessarily to like

[00:49:24] as a rule, if that makes sense.

[00:49:26] To me, that's, it sounds almost like, I don't want to say hazing because hazing is like way

[00:49:30] more severe, but like in that realm.

[00:49:33] Legally it is.

[00:49:34] Yes.

[00:49:34] Of activity.

[00:49:35] You know what I mean?

[00:49:36] Mm hmm.

[00:49:37] Um, like the same kind of intention though, obviously not that level of severity.

[00:49:42] I mean, if you ask the pledge to bring your tissue, like, you know, like a paper towel,

[00:49:47] it's hazing.

[00:49:48] So.

[00:49:49] Oh yeah.

[00:49:50] So it doesn't have.

[00:49:51] Yeah.

[00:49:52] Everything is.

[00:49:53] So the night before the final vote, the pledge class was encouraged by the sisters to

[00:49:57] all do something fun together to get to know each other a little bit more.

[00:50:00] There were very strict rules about the corn while pledging, no cursing, no drinking, no

[00:50:05] inappropriate clothing, et cetera.

[00:50:07] Yeah.

[00:50:07] And that's because on for a whole semester.

[00:50:09] Is that normal?

[00:50:11] Yeah.

[00:50:11] Mine was at least.

[00:50:12] Oh, Jesus Christ.

[00:50:14] I would have never.

[00:50:14] I mean, it wasn't no cursing, but like there, there was definitely.

[00:50:18] Yeah.

[00:50:18] We had a no drinking rule.

[00:50:20] Um, but that's cause like, even as an active, you're not allowed to drink in letters.

[00:50:24] Like that's a, like you can get kicked out of the organization.

[00:50:28] So we want people that know how to control themselves.

[00:50:31] I would.

[00:50:32] Well, we always have to give a reason.

[00:50:35] Um, no, it's just, yeah.

[00:50:36] Like you can't.

[00:50:37] Listen, people drink.

[00:50:38] It's, it's, it's not hard.

[00:50:40] Uh, but the point is like, just, you can't drink in your letters.

[00:50:43] Like that's just.

[00:50:45] And I don't think I've ever drank in letters.

[00:50:47] Like, I just think that's like, it's just disrespectful.

[00:50:49] There's no reason.

[00:50:51] Um, to just like take it like, you know, wear a different shirt.

[00:50:55] Um, but yes, it's like, you're always like representing the sorority.

[00:50:59] So there are certain things like as a pledge, I think it's like your, um, what's the word

[00:51:06] training for that.

[00:51:08] But my sorority does, um, ghost pledging, which means no one can know you're online.

[00:51:15] So no one knows you're pledging.

[00:51:16] So that actually helps you like, cause I was in public.

[00:51:19] We can't like talk.

[00:51:20] Yeah.

[00:51:21] I'm anything to you.

[00:51:22] Okay.

[00:51:23] Well, that makes sense to me.

[00:51:24] Yeah.

[00:51:25] Um, okay.

[00:51:26] So the activity chosen would, was a bonfire next to the river near campus because that

[00:51:32] would be a safe activity, um, with all of the rules.

[00:51:35] Our messengers parents were coming into town the next day for a sporting event.

[00:51:39] So our messenger did not want to go to this bonfire, but the sisters and other pledges

[00:51:43] convinced her that it'd be a really good bonding opportunity and she should go.

[00:51:47] Yeah.

[00:51:47] This is where I think being with Indian girls helps.

[00:51:49] Cause if you say parents, it's like everything, you know, they'll be like, great.

[00:51:55] So you just can't make it.

[00:51:56] Got it.

[00:51:57] Honestly.

[00:51:58] Um, and so a little bit more context of our messenger at the start of college, they

[00:52:03] were more of a bookish introvert really like to stay in their dorm room, like to watch

[00:52:08] movies, like to paint on the weekends, just like chill low key type stuff.

[00:52:12] Um, and so didn't really have that.

[00:52:14] And again, this was the whole point.

[00:52:16] She wanted to make friends.

[00:52:17] She was worried about making friends.

[00:52:18] Right.

[00:52:18] So that's why she's pledging in the first place.

[00:52:19] Mm hmm.

[00:52:20] Um, there was a girl who lived a few rooms down from her in the dorm who we are going

[00:52:24] to call Tina.

[00:52:25] Okay.

[00:52:25] And she had become our messengers closest friend in the pledge class.

[00:52:29] And she said, messenger, I will drive you to and from the bonfire.

[00:52:33] Mm hmm.

[00:52:33] Tina was a lot more outspoken than our messenger.

[00:52:35] Everyone seemed to like her.

[00:52:36] And our messenger was really excited to have such a close friend already.

[00:52:40] Yeah.

[00:52:41] Um, the bonfire was totally fine.

[00:52:44] They played an extremely PG version of never have I ever they roasted marshmallows

[00:52:49] like the, the example never have I ever she provides is like, oh, never have I ever flown

[00:52:54] on a plane.

[00:52:54] Like it was like very, very PG.

[00:52:58] Um, after a couple of hours, the official pledge class event ended and some of the sorority sisters

[00:53:05] showed up to the bonfire.

[00:53:07] Our messenger does not know who invited them, but they seemed to be intoxicated.

[00:53:14] Yeah.

[00:53:14] And so some of the pledges, including Tina and our messenger left immediately.

[00:53:18] Yep.

[00:53:19] Um, the smart thing to do.

[00:53:20] There, there weren't any specific rules about drinking at a non sorority related event, but to be safe,

[00:53:26] they thought it was best to leave because again, if there's one more vote left.

[00:53:29] Right.

[00:53:29] And I know I that's exactly what you do.

[00:53:31] You just don't.

[00:53:32] I personally just didn't want to be around active.

[00:53:34] I was like, bro, like get out of here.

[00:53:36] That's so fair.

[00:53:37] Yeah.

[00:53:38] Um, and again, our messenger had an early day the next morning with her parents.

[00:53:40] And so it was fine to leave early for her.

[00:53:44] And to her knowledge, nothing else happened really at this event.

[00:53:47] Everyone left shortly after her.

[00:53:49] Mm hmm.

[00:53:50] Um, but then the next morning they start hearing rumors.

[00:53:53] Something bad had happened at the bonfire.

[00:53:57] And our messenger's intrigued.

[00:53:58] She's like, what is it?

[00:53:59] It must've happened long after Tina and I left.

[00:54:02] But after a few hours later, our messenger was summoned to the library by the pledge moms

[00:54:06] to get to the bottom of the situation.

[00:54:10] Meth.

[00:54:11] Our messenger thought that she was going to be informed of what had happened,

[00:54:14] but instead they started interrogating her about quote, what she did.

[00:54:19] Oh, no, no, this is the organization you need to be a part of.

[00:54:23] The pledge moms are being super cryptic, but to read between the lines,

[00:54:27] it seemed like someone had accused our messenger of doing something and they wanted to see who else was involved.

[00:54:33] And again, going back to everything, she was told, don't defend yourself.

[00:54:37] Just admit to everything you did.

[00:54:40] And when she asked what they were referring to, they said they couldn't tell her.

[00:54:44] Don't ask any questions.

[00:54:45] So she recounted exactly what happened to the bonfire.

[00:54:48] Yeah.

[00:54:48] The s'mores, the game and leaving along with the exact timelines, who she was with, etc.

[00:54:53] She told him she had no idea what they were talking about, but she could tell that they did not believe her.

[00:55:00] Okay.

[00:55:02] So.

[00:55:03] This is like a weird, like power trip situation.

[00:55:05] Like you don't want to be an organization with like leaders like this.

[00:55:08] Like this, it's super weird.

[00:55:11] So Sheila's super confused and she talks to Tina.

[00:55:13] She says, did this happen to you?

[00:55:15] Tina goes, yeah, me and two other girls were also pulled in for questioning.

[00:55:19] Yeah.

[00:55:20] None of us were told what we were being accused of.

[00:55:22] And so they started wondering, oh, did the sisters get in trouble who showed up at the end?

[00:55:26] But they literally couldn't figure out why they were being questioned because they weren't even there.

[00:55:30] They left.

[00:55:31] Mm hmm.

[00:55:32] Our messenger was nervous, but confident because she knew she hadn't done anything wrong.

[00:55:36] Right.

[00:55:37] That night was the third and final vote.

[00:55:40] And to our messenger surprise, she was voted out along with Tina and a couple of others.

[00:55:45] They were all devastated after having put so much time and energy into the sorority, but they were also shocked and confused because it seemed like whatever this rumor was, was the reason why they were voted out.

[00:55:56] Our messenger was very unceremoniously told to turn in her pledge book and all other sorority paraphernalia.

[00:56:03] She was also instructed to hand over the 70 gifts she had bought and organized to give to the sisters as part of her leadership role.

[00:56:11] What?

[00:56:12] You can't make pledges spend money like this.

[00:56:15] 70 gifts is crazy.

[00:56:17] Our messenger was also informed that she would not be given a refund for the money she had spent on tickets to the formal that she was no longer allowed to attend.

[00:56:24] Oh, hell no.

[00:56:26] See, this is where like I don't understand these organizations, because to me, like until you officially cross, you are not part of my organization.

[00:56:34] So you're not like do it.

[00:56:35] Why are you giving paraphernalia out to people you're voting out?

[00:56:39] Does that make any sense?

[00:56:40] And I'm also like, why?

[00:56:43] If this is a service sorority and it's about community service.

[00:56:48] Yeah.

[00:56:48] Why on earth are is anyone expected to buy any one person expected to buy a gift for 70 other people?

[00:56:55] That's crazy.

[00:56:56] We had to do like a breakfast, but that was it.

[00:56:59] Yeah.

[00:57:00] But like you.

[00:57:01] But like, did you alone have to do one breakfast for everybody?

[00:57:05] Exactly.

[00:57:06] It wasn't my line.

[00:57:07] Yeah, it's different.

[00:57:08] Right?

[00:57:08] Yeah.

[00:57:09] And no.

[00:57:09] And my my my like lines is there made a big mistake and was like, should we do individual orders?

[00:57:18] Oh, my God.

[00:57:19] They just wanted bagels.

[00:57:20] That was it.

[00:57:21] But we but we just she asked.

[00:57:24] So as soon as you ask, they're going to be like, oh, yeah.

[00:57:28] Yeah, no, that makes total sense.

[00:57:30] And so again, to add insult to injury for a messenger the way that because there's more just wait, we're not done yet.

[00:57:36] Of course.

[00:57:37] They the way this worked was immediately following the final vote.

[00:57:40] The accepted pledges start receiving baskets for clue week from their bigs.

[00:57:43] So the four of them were were voted out.

[00:57:46] They're confused and upset and they just have to watch everyone else posting pictures of scavenger hunts, etc.

[00:57:53] So weird.

[00:57:54] Like I'm it's just not clicking like do they want the sorority to die?

[00:57:59] Oh, what is happening?

[00:58:01] It's so different from you know what I know.

[00:58:04] It's got a work to do.

[00:58:05] That's why I don't that's what I'm saying.

[00:58:07] Like, I just don't understand service organizations in this way because I just like what?

[00:58:13] And so our messenger was upset, but it was a lot more upsetting once she found out what had actually happened.

[00:58:20] Okay.

[00:58:21] So, of course, her real sister is part of the sorority.

[00:58:26] Yeah, she's not supposed to say anything about the vote.

[00:58:29] All right.

[00:58:30] She pissed off about the situation.

[00:58:32] She doesn't care.

[00:58:32] She told our messenger what happened.

[00:58:35] So one of the pledges who we are going to call Amy.

[00:58:38] Yeah, who our messenger did not know super well, but they were actually scheduled to live in a dorm together the following year.

[00:58:44] Wow.

[00:58:45] Claimed that Tina, our messenger and a few others made them extremely uncomfortable at the bonfire.

[00:58:49] They claimed that the group of four girls were talking about sexual acts, drugs, drinking and pressuring others to do the same.

[00:58:58] Oh, my God.

[00:58:59] Amy had gone to her roommate, who was a sister that night in tears over the whole thing, gave their names and the two of them work together on a whole speech to present at the voting.

[00:59:09] Oh, my God.

[00:59:10] The sisters at the vote were rightfully shocked about this.

[00:59:14] Our messenger's real sister and her neighborhood friend who was in the organization pushed back saying, no, like we know messenger and they would literally never do that.

[00:59:22] But they were told, no, you're biased.

[00:59:25] You're not a reliable source.

[00:59:27] Oh, my God.

[00:59:28] And when they questioned, well, why is Amy's roommate not considered biased?

[00:59:33] They were told, no, it's different.

[00:59:36] What?

[00:59:37] Some of the sisters said, at least we should let the accused respond to these allegations.

[00:59:43] Right.

[00:59:43] But the pledge one said, nope, they've already been asked and everyone's just pretending it didn't happen.

[00:59:48] Um, they said that they had made the they said that the four girls had made me so uncomfortable that it would be unfair for them to have the opportunity to speak up for themselves and make her feel worse.

[00:59:58] Wow.

[01:00:00] And our messenger's stunned by this.

[01:00:03] Not only has she not done any of those things, but none of it happened at all.

[01:00:06] She knew that things could get blown out of proportion, but this was just 100 percent a lie.

[01:00:13] Oh, my God.

[01:00:14] Our messenger sought out the president and vice president of the sorority to try and clear her name.

[01:00:19] Right.

[01:00:19] Was annoyed that she hadn't been informed of the allegations, upset that she was being slandered and insisted that literally none of it happened.

[01:00:25] Um, she went to all the pledges and they all signed a petition saying none of it had happened.

[01:00:30] Jesus.

[01:00:31] Our messenger's roommate spoke to this.

[01:00:33] No, wait.

[01:00:34] Yeah, our messenger's roommate spoke to the sisters to vouch for how introverted and homebody our messenger is.

[01:00:40] And they were told by the leadership board it was simply too late.

[01:00:43] The ceremony of accepting new sisters had ended.

[01:00:45] Clue week had started and we could just try again next year.

[01:00:48] Why would I want to try again for this?

[01:00:50] No.

[01:00:51] I'm sorry.

[01:00:51] I would never want to be associated with any of those people again.

[01:00:54] Yeah, of course not.

[01:00:56] Not one sister in the leadership team apologized for what happened or believed this group of four girls, even though they had evidence and they didn't try to fix the situation at all.

[01:01:06] That's so.

[01:01:07] Um, it's like actually.

[01:01:09] Yeah.

[01:01:09] Our messenger wanted to confront Amy directly about it.

[01:01:12] Like, why would you say that?

[01:01:14] Hoping that it was some sort of misunderstanding.

[01:01:16] But our messenger's mom, who's a real one said.

[01:01:19] No, don't talk to that girl.

[01:01:21] Like if she's willing to lie about all of this, like what else is she capable of lying about?

[01:01:25] Like, don't engage with this with this person.

[01:01:28] And our message.

[01:01:30] There's always some weird sorority shit.

[01:01:31] Like, huh?

[01:01:32] Yeah.

[01:01:33] And like our messenger normally doesn't really believe that people would do something like this on purpose.

[01:01:38] But it's just so confusing.

[01:01:39] That's like she doesn't even know what to think.

[01:01:41] I mean, some folks can get really catty and this is like, like a messenger said at the start, right?

[01:01:46] They didn't want this to be a setup of girls competing against each other.

[01:01:52] But that's exactly what happened.

[01:01:53] So I wonder if Amy did some shit and to deflect from maybe even drinking or something basic.

[01:02:02] This is what happened.

[01:02:04] Yeah, it's so bizarre.

[01:02:07] It's so, so bizarre.

[01:02:09] Our messenger was like worried now because like there are people on campus who believe these horrible things about her.

[01:02:16] She has no way to defend herself.

[01:02:18] Yeah.

[01:02:18] The vice president of the sorority was also her boss at her on campus job.

[01:02:22] And so she was then worried about keeping her job as well.

[01:02:28] She had she left school for a week to just like try and deal with that.

[01:02:34] Oof.

[01:02:36] One of the other pledges who was voted out with our messenger did go to the school board and was able to get their money back for the formal tickets, which is at least nice.

[01:02:44] And you should do it, too.

[01:02:46] And they all got it.

[01:02:48] Like all four of them got the money back because of the one girl.

[01:02:50] And so our messenger literally brought male friends with her to pick up the money because the treasurer was being so hostile with them that she was like, didn't know what was going to happen.

[01:03:00] And once the news officially came out about this, many sisters actually quit the sorority or went inactive for their final year in solidarity, including our messengers sister.

[01:03:10] Right.

[01:03:11] Right.

[01:03:11] We're just so like it's just giving the leadership had no idea what they were doing and probably weren't trained well to be the leaders.

[01:03:20] Embarrassing.

[01:03:22] A hundred percent.

[01:03:27] They this is like even still like our messenger still like trying to justify like why this happened in the first place.

[01:03:34] Like, no, this this person lied and was it's crazy.

[01:03:36] I like to probably cover their ass because they were drinking.

[01:03:39] But if they just say all of this, no one's ever even going to think about the other stuff.

[01:03:46] Honestly, yeah, that could be.

[01:03:47] But it's such a crazy allegation to make up to like, it's just wild.

[01:03:51] There is a bright side at the end of this story.

[01:03:54] Our messenger did find a much kinder home in a different sorority the following year with girls who are still her friends to this day.

[01:04:03] The downside is that she was really scarred from this experience and didn't really put herself out there as much for the rest of her college career.

[01:04:11] Part of her always wonders if maybe Amy had some beef with Tina.

[01:04:15] And since Tina was so much more outgoing than her, she got lumped in to it.

[01:04:19] But due to this fear, she made sure to never try and make any, quote, best friends for the next several years.

[01:04:26] Which is really sad.

[01:04:28] But then she finishes with that.

[01:04:30] And another reason which she is saving for another anonymous.

[01:04:35] Oh, brother.

[01:04:36] Juicier than this one.

[01:04:38] Oh, brother.

[01:04:39] I know.

[01:04:40] I know.

[01:04:41] It's okay.

[01:04:41] But that's it.

[01:04:42] That's it.

[01:04:43] And to our messenger.

[01:04:44] Thank you so much for sharing this.

[01:04:46] This is like.

[01:04:46] Seriously.

[01:04:47] I've been sitting on this one for a long time waiting for the right opportunity.

[01:04:52] Oh, good.

[01:04:52] And I just thought today's the day.

[01:04:55] No, I love this.

[01:04:56] I love it.

[01:04:58] And I love sorority mess because your girl was in it with many sorority messes.

[01:05:03] So, yeah, it's just I don't know.

[01:05:06] It's so weird.

[01:05:07] And sorry if like other organizations do this.

[01:05:10] It's just the organize the councils that I was a part of.

[01:05:14] And and like the ones that I know of.

[01:05:18] I have never heard that they like include like give bids basically to all these people

[01:05:25] and then say no.

[01:05:26] I'm just it's not making sense to me.

[01:05:29] I mean, this seems like an extremely flawed organization.

[01:05:32] I like I have to imagine that that is not representative of what other sororities are

[01:05:37] like.

[01:05:38] No, but I know a lot of people that are in them.

[01:05:40] Yeah.

[01:05:41] Yeah. I don't know anything about it.

[01:05:42] So I I'm always happy to get more sorority mess.

[01:05:46] So if anyone has more like please send it to us mess magnets dot com.

[01:05:49] We we want it.

[01:05:50] Yeah.

[01:05:51] Give it so we can all give it talk about how ridiculous all this stuff is.

[01:05:56] Okay. Amazing. Well, that's it.

[01:05:58] That is our episode of mess.

[01:06:00] I love done.

[01:06:02] Um, Sasha for the people that need to know where else can they find you right now?

[01:06:09] Yes. As you know, of course, I am here and I'm also talking sex lives of college girls

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[01:06:28] Season three has been such a great episode.

[01:06:30] Just such a great season.

[01:06:32] And the episodes have been really fun.

[01:06:34] We have a new person we got to talk about.

[01:06:36] So check us out.

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[01:06:50] What about you, Kirsten?

[01:06:52] Yes.

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[01:07:32] I love it.

[01:07:34] All right, everyone.

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