Mess Magnets: Top Mess Star
Mess MagnetsDecember 05, 2024

Mess Magnets: Top Mess Star

Mess Magnets: Top Mess Star

Welcome to the Mess Magnets podcast, the ultimate pop-culture gossip pod! Join your hosts Kirsten MacInnis and Sasha Joseph as they spill the tea on all the latest celebrity news, trending topics, and captivating stories shared by our dedicated listeners. With each episode, Kirsten and Sasha bring you inside scoops, juicy details, and thought-provoking discussions that will keep you hooked. Tune in and stay up-to-date with the ever-evolving world of entertainment as Mess Magnets takes you on a wild ride through the most intriguing stories! This week, Kirsten and special guest, Lovina, discuss a ton of quick bite topics.

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[00:01:59] Hi, I'm Kirsten.

[00:02:15] Hi, I'm Lavina.

[00:02:16] And this is Miss Magnets.

[00:02:19] That's right.

[00:02:20] Lavina's back home, everybody.

[00:02:23] Sasha and I's schedules just did not line up this week.

[00:02:27] I was like, it absolutely has to be recorded before Thursday.

[00:02:30] And she was like, I absolutely cannot do that.

[00:02:33] So thank goodness Lavina, our substitute Miss Magnet to the rescue was available, was not traveling with Sasha.

[00:02:42] You know, and I almost did too.

[00:02:45] Like that was almost a thing.

[00:02:46] So it would have been a solo mission at this point.

[00:02:50] Honestly, like Sasha was like, if you can't get one done, like, don't worry, like I'll figure it out after.

[00:02:54] And I was like, no, I'm not going to make her do a podcast later.

[00:02:56] And I was like, I could do one alone.

[00:02:58] That's fine.

[00:02:59] Like people would be fine to listen to that.

[00:03:02] Just yapping.

[00:03:03] I love that.

[00:03:03] I would listen.

[00:03:05] Listen, on Rob and Akiva Need a Podcast over on the Daddy Network, for anyone who doesn't know,

[00:03:10] they did a podcast where they watched all of the Twilight movies in 3X.

[00:03:15] And then recorded a podcast talking about like, basically what they picked up from what happened in them.

[00:03:21] And I was the fact checker.

[00:03:24] And I recorded 50 minutes of solo audio of me just fact checking their knowledge of the Twilight movies.

[00:03:31] So like, I could do it.

[00:03:32] I could do MS Magnets alone.

[00:03:34] But I shouldn't have to.

[00:03:37] That, we should do more of those.

[00:03:39] We should get experts on the podcast about particular topics.

[00:03:43] Like, for me, like a good thing that they could do is watch Big Fat Liar.

[00:03:50] 3X speed and I'll fact check that.

[00:03:54] Honestly, put it on the wheel.

[00:03:56] Somebody write Rob and Akiva.

[00:03:57] They should do that.

[00:03:58] I've said it to Rob.

[00:03:59] And he's like, is that the one with Frankie Muniz?

[00:04:02] I'm like, yeah.

[00:04:03] Yeah.

[00:04:05] Sometimes Rob just doesn't understand.

[00:04:07] They really fought about putting Twilight on the wheel as well.

[00:04:10] And that ended up being a great podcast.

[00:04:12] So, who knows?

[00:04:13] I feel like that happens a lot.

[00:04:15] I don't want to talk about that.

[00:04:16] And it ends up being like one of the best pods.

[00:04:18] I feel like that, like even with Mess Magnets,

[00:04:21] I feel like sometimes it'll be a topic that like one or both of us

[00:04:26] don't really know that much about.

[00:04:27] And then it ultimately ends up being so fun.

[00:04:30] And we are like losing it.

[00:04:32] Like last week when we talked about, what's her name?

[00:04:36] Taylor Frankie.

[00:04:38] Taylor Frankie Paul from the Utah Mom Talk situation.

[00:04:42] Like some of the tea last week was incredible.

[00:04:45] Like I still need to know about this woman's husband faking her death.

[00:04:48] Like I'm, I need more information.

[00:04:50] But she's not very good at telling a story.

[00:04:53] Unbelievable.

[00:04:54] I feel like we just have like an endless loop of stories like this on the internet.

[00:04:59] Yes.

[00:05:00] And I love them.

[00:05:02] I love the internet.

[00:05:03] Like sometimes.

[00:05:04] Sometimes.

[00:05:05] Well, yeah, I love and hate the internet in equal measure,

[00:05:07] depending on where I am and at what time.

[00:05:13] But there are a few days left to nominate men for Mess Magnets Sexiest Man Alive 2024.

[00:05:23] So look at me remembering to say it at the top of the podcast.

[00:05:26] Go to messmagnets.com.

[00:05:28] It's in our Google form.

[00:05:29] It's the first line of the form.

[00:05:32] And I'm removing it from the form on Friday, December 6th.

[00:05:37] So get your nominations in.

[00:05:41] And then Sasha and I will create a short list.

[00:05:42] And then we'll create a poll for everyone to vote on.

[00:05:45] So that we can determine who is Mess Magnets Sexiest Man Alive 2024.

[00:05:49] It's going to be really good.

[00:05:51] I cannot wait.

[00:05:52] I'm ready.

[00:05:55] You're going to have to be on the committee, obviously.

[00:05:57] Okay.

[00:05:58] You need your help.

[00:06:00] Yes.

[00:06:00] Also, in good internet news, it is Spotify wrapped day.

[00:06:05] So I woke up this morning and the first thing I did was look at my Spotify wrapped

[00:06:09] after seeing it on a million Instagram stories within 30 seconds of being awake.

[00:06:14] Like, uh, Livina, do you want to share your Spotify wrapped top five with the, with the

[00:06:19] class?

[00:06:20] You don't have to, if you don't want to.

[00:06:21] Oh, I'm more than happy.

[00:06:22] I just wanted to say though, I feel like, I feel like not to be like negative or whatever,

[00:06:27] but I feel like this year was kind of like AI garbage.

[00:06:33] Like they were like, oh, here's this pod.

[00:06:36] I was like, how dare you disrespect our craft first of all.

[00:06:40] But they're like, Hey, here's this AI podcast we generated for you based up.

[00:06:44] And I was like, girl, I don't need this, but thanks.

[00:06:48] I don't need it.

[00:06:48] I didn't ask for it.

[00:06:49] I didn't want it.

[00:06:50] I will never press play on it.

[00:06:52] I will never know what that AI podcast about my music said.

[00:06:57] Um, as well, like I've long said the only good thing AI has ever done is the names of the

[00:07:03] Spotify day lists.

[00:07:05] And then they just kind of like included that.

[00:07:09] And it would be like, April was your pink princess Pilates month.

[00:07:12] And I was like, that doesn't mean anything.

[00:07:16] It's giving homophobia.

[00:07:17] Like, I'm sorry.

[00:07:18] I saw that.

[00:07:19] And I'm like, y'all are there.

[00:07:22] This is subliminal messaging.

[00:07:24] Don't even try it.

[00:07:26] Um, it's just so weird.

[00:07:28] Whereas like, I feel like in past years, it would give you like your personality type on

[00:07:34] like, if you're someone who listens to like a lot of artists, or if you like listen to whole

[00:07:37] albums or like, like the breadth of your music, that kind of thing.

[00:07:42] I feel like it's definitely a miss that they did not do that this year.

[00:07:46] And they just were like, in this month, you were a, um, truck country fan.

[00:07:53] And I have a friend who keeps getting Spotify day lists that are like truck.

[00:07:58] What is that even?

[00:07:59] Minors just always, I haven't really looked in a while because it's always the same thing.

[00:08:03] It's like bachelorette.

[00:08:04] Um, no, wait, it's just like bachelorette party, um, 2000s rom-com.

[00:08:10] I'm like, we get it.

[00:08:12] Like, I understand that this Fergie song needs to be on there.

[00:08:15] Like understood.

[00:08:16] Wait, okay.

[00:08:17] My current day list is poetic autumn Wednesday afternoon.

[00:08:22] Oh boy.

[00:08:23] Here's some poetic autumn sad girl pumpkin spice acceptance and soul crushing.

[00:08:29] Oh my God.

[00:08:30] Pumpkin spice did me in.

[00:08:33] I don't need soul crushing.

[00:08:35] That's crazy.

[00:08:36] What is hot girl walk recession pop Wednesday afternoon?

[00:08:40] What is recession pop?

[00:08:42] Not recession pop.

[00:08:43] Like 2008 hits.

[00:08:45] Like, what is that?

[00:08:47] It's like how, um, the skirts get shorter and women buy more lipstick as a recession indicator

[00:08:54] or do the skirts get longer?

[00:08:56] Something with the length of turns.

[00:08:58] Mine don't.

[00:08:59] Could never be me, but.

[00:09:01] Could never be me.

[00:09:02] Recession's not impacting that for me.

[00:09:03] Let's just leave it at that.

[00:09:04] But I did buy a new lipstick recently for the first time in a long time.

[00:09:08] So.

[00:09:09] Yes.

[00:09:10] Maybe.

[00:09:10] Maybe it's hitting.

[00:09:11] Um, but yeah, that doesn't mean it.

[00:09:13] It just doesn't mean anything, which is frustrating.

[00:09:17] Um, I, but I do have.

[00:09:20] Oh, go ahead.

[00:09:21] No, no, no.

[00:09:21] Please proceed.

[00:09:22] I was going to say my top five.

[00:09:24] Because I do have an upset for the first time ever.

[00:09:29] This is major.

[00:09:30] This is historical text.

[00:09:32] This, this will be historical text.

[00:09:34] Okay.

[00:09:35] My number one this year.

[00:09:36] Let me start with my number two.

[00:09:38] My number two was NSYNC.

[00:09:41] And.

[00:09:42] God.

[00:09:43] Like I, I had like a comic book, like sitcom, the office reaction to that.

[00:09:50] Well, like I kind of figured.

[00:09:52] Charlie XAX would hit my number one.

[00:09:54] She's kind of lingered at number two and three for the past, like.

[00:09:58] Five, six years.

[00:10:00] So I figured this would be the one because she just put out so much freaking music.

[00:10:04] Like I can't, I'm listening to all of it.

[00:10:06] The data's there.

[00:10:07] Um, so yeah, you know, number three was Ariana, which I don't agree.

[00:10:12] I was telling Kirsten.

[00:10:13] I don't really agree with her being over number four, which is Brittany and number five, which

[00:10:19] is Kendrick, because I just don't agree with that.

[00:10:22] I listened to all of Brittany and Kendrick's catalog.

[00:10:25] And for Ariana, I really only listened to like the boy is mine and bi off the album.

[00:10:31] So like for me personally, I didn't agree with that.

[00:10:34] But like, that's the data.

[00:10:35] I can't argue.

[00:10:35] Yeah.

[00:10:36] One, I think that they collected it by like number of songs listened to, not minutes listened

[00:10:41] to.

[00:10:41] And so like, that's what I said was that my theory is that the Ari songs are shorter.

[00:10:45] Um, and so you listen to them maybe more times.

[00:10:48] I don't know.

[00:10:49] Um, my top, of course, once again, Taylor Swift, number one per usual.

[00:10:55] Um, this year I really tried to branch out and listen to less Taylor Swift.

[00:10:59] And now I'm only in the three top 3% of Taylor Swift fans where I used to be in the top 0.5.

[00:11:05] So I've moved down a fall from grace.

[00:11:08] Um, number two, Sabrina Carpenter, three Chapel Rhone, four Olivia Rodrigo and five.

[00:11:14] This is the one I argue with.

[00:11:16] My number five is Gracie Abrams.

[00:11:19] And I don't even really like Gracie Abrams, but I just wanted to learn those songs before

[00:11:23] seeing her in concert.

[00:11:24] And I think it's because her songs are so short because I think I spent more time listening

[00:11:28] to specifically not like us over and over again than I did listening to all of.

[00:11:36] Yeah.

[00:11:36] And like, what's weird about that is like, like how I said, I listened to the boy is mine

[00:11:41] a lot, but that's one song and she hit my top.

[00:11:44] So why isn't Kendrick in your top?

[00:11:46] If you listen to not like us 50, 50 million times, I want to know the numbers on that.

[00:11:52] I don't get it.

[00:11:53] I also, I like really tried hard to get our podcast networks own Jacob Jones, who performs

[00:11:59] under the name of air into my top by listening to, um, the song Da Vinci, like a, like I was

[00:12:05] like trying for Da Vinci to be my number one song of the year.

[00:12:08] And then I just like ruined it by listening to other songs too much.

[00:12:13] But I was like, I went into the year literally with a mission.

[00:12:15] I was like, I will listen to Da Vinci every day and then I'll have 365 plays and it will

[00:12:22] be my number one song.

[00:12:24] And then it just fell apart.

[00:12:25] And so I'm pretty upset that my plans did not come to fruition.

[00:12:31] Hey, we're still streaming it.

[00:12:33] Everyone go stream it.

[00:12:34] If you're listening to this right now, we'll still see it.

[00:12:35] Maybe it'll work for 25.

[00:12:37] The song's always there.

[00:12:38] I mean, look, I have songs from like 20 years ago on my top as we, as we famously know.

[00:12:43] Um, yeah, I think, um, yeah, I don't know.

[00:12:47] I feel like Spotify was kind of, or sorry, I feel like wrapped this year was kind of like

[00:12:51] lackluster, but I do think it's the AI like smut.

[00:12:57] Is that the word that people are using?

[00:12:58] AI?

[00:12:59] I mean, it works for me.

[00:13:00] It's yeah.

[00:13:01] Yeah.

[00:13:01] They really have leaned too much into that.

[00:13:03] Like you reposted, there was like a tweet where someone was like, wait, before chat GPT,

[00:13:09] I used to do things for myself.

[00:13:10] And you reposted like, Hey, so you're stupid.

[00:13:14] You are all stupid.

[00:13:16] And I was like, yeah.

[00:13:17] Like, it's like you, like not to pivot, but like, just like real quick, like you, people

[00:13:21] don't know how to connect with other people in real life anymore, as well as they don't

[00:13:26] know how to think for themselves anymore.

[00:13:28] Like, why are we talking to robots?

[00:13:30] Why are we like making robots come up with ideas for us?

[00:13:33] Is this creativity?

[00:13:34] As someone in a creative field, I'm offended.

[00:13:37] Yeah.

[00:13:37] I want to me.

[00:13:38] I'm like robots should be doing the things we don't want to do, like taking out the garbage

[00:13:44] and doing the dishes and like cleaning, not the things that make life worth living, such

[00:13:50] as creating.

[00:13:51] So I think some people should not be podcast.

[00:13:55] I'm sorry.

[00:13:55] There are enough people with podcasts.

[00:13:58] We don't need a robot to have a podcast too.

[00:14:00] Oh, girl.

[00:14:01] That's why I was so pissed when they Spotify wrapped hit me with the here's the AI generated

[00:14:06] podcast talking about your like, I'm sorry.

[00:14:08] I'm already beefing with Spotify DJ.

[00:14:11] Like, I don't like him.

[00:14:13] Oh my God.

[00:14:14] DJ is horrible.

[00:14:15] Like he's playing with me because what, what do you mean?

[00:14:18] I think I posted about this.

[00:14:19] Like, what do you mean?

[00:14:20] Hey, this song sounds similar to Backstreet Boys.

[00:14:23] And then he starts playing 365 Charlie XCX featuring Shy Girl.

[00:14:30] Completely different vibe.

[00:14:31] That's a huge vibe.

[00:14:33] Doesn't make it.

[00:14:34] BDE.

[00:14:34] BDE by Shy Girl is similar to 98 Degrees.

[00:14:40] I mean, they do have one very important thing in common that you like them both.

[00:14:46] Right.

[00:14:46] But they're not the same.

[00:14:49] Right.

[00:14:49] Like at some point, I'm just like, you're playing me songs that I am like, it's not groundbreaking

[00:14:55] information.

[00:14:56] Yeah.

[00:14:56] It's like I made a playlist of all the songs I like listening to.

[00:15:00] And then I just listened to that playlist all year.

[00:15:01] And so then every day list is just songs off of that same playlist in a different order.

[00:15:06] It's like, well, I already did this.

[00:15:08] You didn't like make me something similar.

[00:15:10] Yeah.

[00:15:11] Come on.

[00:15:11] I feel like Spotify is like charm.

[00:15:16] And like the reason I switched because I used to be Apple Music early.

[00:15:20] I literally took all my playlists and switched them using a service like a free service that

[00:15:26] you can change or you can put all your playlists into Spotify.

[00:15:30] And I remember doing that in like 2018 or 17 or whatever.

[00:15:33] And the reason I did it was because I felt like Spotify was so like curated to what you

[00:15:39] want and they have suggestions for you.

[00:15:41] I loved the like release radar playlist.

[00:15:44] I loved the what's the other one?

[00:15:46] The Discover Weekly was really amazing.

[00:15:50] And no longer.

[00:15:51] It's just songs I've already heard.

[00:15:53] It'll be like, here's this song from you might like this.

[00:15:57] And it's like an NSYNC deep cut.

[00:16:00] Oh, you think I haven't heard that?

[00:16:02] You think I haven't heard that?

[00:16:03] It's like I've I've clearly listened to that before.

[00:16:07] Do they even still?

[00:16:08] I think if you search for it, you can still get a Discover Weekly.

[00:16:12] I'm still following mine.

[00:16:13] Yeah, I'm actually now I'm curious to see what's on here.

[00:16:17] It's yeah, right here.

[00:16:19] Yeah, it's like not songs from the Wicked soundtrack and it's not even Defying Gravity.

[00:16:27] Not Ice Spice.

[00:16:29] Oh, yuck.

[00:16:31] Ice Spice and Bad Baby.

[00:16:32] Okay, what does this say about me?

[00:16:36] Nothing.

[00:16:36] It says more about Spotify than it does about you.

[00:16:39] I don't know who like any of these artists are.

[00:16:44] Oh, look, a Renee Rapp song from her album that's been out forever.

[00:16:48] Come on.

[00:16:49] Yeah, and they'll put songs like by Tupac and Biggie.

[00:16:53] I'm like, yeah, thank you.

[00:16:56] Yeah, that's crazy.

[00:16:58] Release Radar is a little bit better because it's art artists that I actually, you know,

[00:17:03] I would hear that maybe.

[00:17:05] I mean, not really.

[00:17:07] There's only like flow here.

[00:17:09] It's one.

[00:17:09] It's also like this was a week when nothing really happened.

[00:17:12] So it's also fair if there's not a good release.

[00:17:16] Heidi Montag.

[00:17:18] Okay, everyone go stream that, I guess.

[00:17:20] Wait, a new song from Heidi Montag.

[00:17:22] Honestly, I'll listen.

[00:17:24] I'm not mad.

[00:17:27] Um, the last thing I want to say about Spotify Wrapped is obviously it doesn't clip podcasts.

[00:17:31] And so if Mess Magnets is in your top podcast of the year, please share it on social media

[00:17:37] and take Sasha and I so that we can reshare it and see that we are loved and that people

[00:17:41] care about what we're doing.

[00:17:43] Yay.

[00:17:44] I don't use Spotify for podcasts.

[00:17:46] I'm weird.

[00:17:47] I use Apple podcasts.

[00:17:48] I know that's that's not weird.

[00:17:51] That's very normal.

[00:17:52] That's how I always used to be.

[00:17:53] I literally switched to listening to podcasts on Spotify last December, December 2nd after

[00:17:59] Spotify Wrapped because I was like, I want the statistics.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:03] And then I bought them this year and I was like, there's no way that's all the podcasts

[00:18:07] I listen to.

[00:18:08] I think the only reason I, I think I had started to just same, same as you.

[00:18:13] I was like, I'm gonna, I'm switching to Spotify late back in the day.

[00:18:16] I was like, let's see like how it whatever.

[00:18:18] But I stopped because I did not like the suggested podcasts that they gave me.

[00:18:22] And it would get stuck to my home screen.

[00:18:24] And I'm like, I don't want to listen to this.

[00:18:26] I mean, I'm not going to call anyone out, but like, I don't care about your little dinky

[00:18:30] survivor podcast.

[00:18:32] Like, I don't want to listen to that.

[00:18:36] You're like, I don't even want to listen to the survivor podcast that I work for.

[00:18:42] Rob, she's kidding, by the way.

[00:18:44] Well, no, I listened to the survivor podcast.

[00:18:47] I was talking about you.

[00:18:48] Ew.

[00:18:49] That's what I'm saying.

[00:18:51] I'm like, don't listen to her.

[00:18:52] She's lying.

[00:18:52] No, but it's a Laveena listens while she's editing videos.

[00:18:55] Don't worry.

[00:18:55] She's listening.

[00:18:56] Yeah.

[00:18:59] It's weird.

[00:19:00] I don't know.

[00:19:03] Let's, let's get into it.

[00:19:05] The rest of the episode.

[00:19:06] And so this episode is going to be a little bit weird.

[00:19:09] First of all, obviously Sasha's not here,

[00:19:12] but normally I send the stories to our guests so that they can prepare and like have their opinions ready.

[00:19:21] But like nothing happened this week.

[00:19:23] So we're just going to do kind of like a quick little round Robin through some stories.

[00:19:31] And we're going to get Laveena's reactions to them while we're talking about it.

[00:19:36] And it's going to be really fun.

[00:19:41] So excited.

[00:19:43] Obviously we could not have a pop culture podcast without mentioning that Beyonce was officially named Billboard's number one greatest pop star of the 21st century.

[00:19:51] Again, as I said last week, as she should be.

[00:19:55] Mm hmm.

[00:19:56] I mean.

[00:19:58] Continue.

[00:19:59] It's what I'm really mad about is that.

[00:20:04] They spent so much of the article talking about Beyonce, like mentioning Taylor Swift, because of course the Swifties lost their damn minds last week when Taylor Swift was named number two.

[00:20:15] Which once again, Taylor Swift has only been a pop star for like 10 years because she was a country star before that.

[00:20:23] And so it's just apples and oranges.

[00:20:25] It's not the same.

[00:20:27] And when it comes to like being groundbreaking and creating new things and innovating.

[00:20:35] It's Beyonce.

[00:20:36] I'm sorry.

[00:20:36] Like.

[00:20:37] It's OK.

[00:20:38] It's OK to love Taylor Swift and still hold space for Beyonce's impact and love Beyonce as well.

[00:20:43] Like we can all calm down.

[00:20:45] So I'm annoyed that they kept mentioning Taylor in the article about like, even though Taylor is like made more money or even though.

[00:20:53] Yeah.

[00:20:54] Selling the same freaking vinyl 17 times with like a different picture on the back.

[00:20:59] Like, come on.

[00:21:01] Yeah.

[00:21:02] I think I'm probably like Sasha and I are very aligned on this topic.

[00:21:08] And like, while I appreciate the artistry of every single artist on this list, as well as out there, because they're every artist out there is doing something I could only dream of doing and expressing their creativity and inner.

[00:21:24] The inner mind, honestly, into their art.

[00:21:27] So like, I really respect that.

[00:21:29] But for me personally, all of this is subjective.

[00:21:32] Right.

[00:21:32] And I don't really have Taylor Swift high on my list, especially on a.

[00:21:39] Impact type of list personally, just because I feel like the full package is Beyonce.

[00:21:46] Beyonce is celebrities celebrity.

[00:21:49] Like people are.

[00:21:50] And I understand Taylor's had a crazy couple years.

[00:21:54] And like, I fully respect that.

[00:21:56] Kirsten was telling me all about the Aeros tour.

[00:21:58] And I respect it even more now because I wasn't aware of the scope of her performance.

[00:22:05] Yeah, I was gonna say performances, but it's one big performance.

[00:22:09] So like, singular.

[00:22:10] It's one.

[00:22:11] That's the thing, too.

[00:22:12] Like if Taylor for the next 30 years keeps having it like this, then there's like a conversation to be had.

[00:22:21] But like Beyonce has been on the scene the whole century so far.

[00:22:27] And if this is biggest pop star of the century, she's been there literally the whole time.

[00:22:33] Continuously innovating, doing more, doing differently and having to be so much more exceptional than other artists to even get the recognition.

[00:22:44] Even though she's better.

[00:22:45] Right.

[00:22:45] It's like, come on.

[00:22:48] And like, respectfully, again, Kirsten, and I'm sure a lot of listeners on this podcast are big Taylor Swift fans.

[00:22:54] Again, I respect it.

[00:22:54] But like, in my opinion, I don't think a lot of what Taylor has done, aside from her lyricism, is groundbreaking.

[00:23:02] Personally, for me, like when I saw Britney Spears, like lower than her on the list, I was gobsmacked.

[00:23:10] Like personally, like the impact that Britney Spears has had on the industry as a whole is just like insane.

[00:23:20] It's also like they didn't say really what the criteria was.

[00:23:26] It was just like, this is what our staff decided.

[00:23:29] And so I think that there is a lot of room.

[00:23:33] To, you know, switch things up or change rankings.

[00:23:37] But I think that no matter what criteria you use, like Beyonce being number one makes sense.

[00:23:42] I think with Britney, there could be arguments that she has been out of the game and that a lot of her performance in the last several years was obviously kind of forced and coerced.

[00:23:55] So it's a little bit different.

[00:23:57] Like, I think that's kind of where I see the argument for Britney being a little bit lower on the list because she's kind of been out of it.

[00:24:07] Yeah.

[00:24:08] But it's also just like if you told me that it was like Beyonce, then Britney or like Beyonce, Madonna, Britney.

[00:24:14] Like I would there's no ranking of like pop stars where I'm going to be like, wow, you guys are idiots and you screwed this up.

[00:24:26] Right.

[00:24:27] Because, again, it's all subjective.

[00:24:28] It's like I don't care what Billboard says because my top five is in no particular order is like Beyonce, Mariah, Britney, Janet.

[00:24:37] And did I forget somebody?

[00:24:42] I think those are my top four.

[00:24:45] Yeah.

[00:24:46] Madonna.

[00:24:46] Madonna was my fifth.

[00:24:47] Yeah.

[00:24:48] Madonna.

[00:24:48] Like I that's subjective.

[00:24:50] Right.

[00:24:51] That's how I view it.

[00:24:52] And I'm like, well, and this is the last century or whatever.

[00:24:56] That's the criteria, I guess.

[00:24:57] So I'm like, where's Michael?

[00:24:59] You know, like, where's Michael Jackson?

[00:25:00] And I'm like, oh, wait.

[00:25:01] OK, I see the criteria.

[00:25:02] So it's like that that I'm like, I just I'm I'm like an old head is what I called my what I call myself.

[00:25:09] Like I was calling myself a boomer off the off the recording.

[00:25:13] When she's quite literally a baby.

[00:25:15] But I'm so bubby.

[00:25:17] Yeah.

[00:25:18] Like, honestly, but I am an old head.

[00:25:19] Like I would consider myself an old head.

[00:25:21] And I'm like, when people were calling Harry Styles the Prince of Pop, I was like, please wash your mouth out with soap.

[00:25:28] One here.

[00:25:29] One time.

[00:25:29] Here's what made me mad of the list.

[00:25:32] OK, so like Beyonce, number one.

[00:25:35] Good with me.

[00:25:36] Taylor, number two.

[00:25:37] Good with me.

[00:25:38] Rihanna, number three.

[00:25:40] Great.

[00:25:40] Love that.

[00:25:42] Drake at number four.

[00:25:44] OK, let's let's get into this one.

[00:25:46] Because.

[00:25:47] Excuse me.

[00:25:49] What?

[00:25:49] Like, no, because Drake himself would not.

[00:25:53] He does not self-identify as a pop star, even though what he does is he makes pop music.

[00:25:57] Like. And especially after the 2024 he's had.

[00:26:01] You're going to put him in the top five.

[00:26:03] No.

[00:26:03] Above Lady Gaga.

[00:26:05] That's something crazy.

[00:26:08] You know, that's what got me is like.

[00:26:11] I don't know.

[00:26:12] I again, this is just some random people at Billboard.

[00:26:16] But exactly.

[00:26:17] To put Drake on any type of list right now is like, again, I'm gobsmacked.

[00:26:23] Like it's.

[00:26:23] Oh, and I just realized there was a joke in that sentence.

[00:26:26] I just said, you know, do with that what you will.

[00:26:30] There's some lists, but there's some lists, but they're not exactly flattering.

[00:26:34] So there's not ones you want to be on.

[00:26:37] Yeah.

[00:26:37] So it's just like.

[00:26:40] Like Justin, like Justin Bieber above Ariana Grande and Adele.

[00:26:44] I don't know.

[00:26:45] Kanye West.

[00:26:47] Yeah.

[00:26:48] I like.

[00:26:48] First of all, that's not even.

[00:26:50] But how he calls himself anymore.

[00:26:53] Right.

[00:26:53] He doesn't.

[00:26:54] What does he call him?

[00:26:56] He doesn't.

[00:26:56] Like, what is he like?

[00:26:57] I have not heard his latest album.

[00:26:59] Respectfully.

[00:27:00] I'm still on late registration, but.

[00:27:03] Fair.

[00:27:03] And I never will.

[00:27:04] You know, I just never will.

[00:27:06] And that's OK.

[00:27:08] He is like a musical genius.

[00:27:10] But I think you can get everything you need from the early stuff.

[00:27:13] Again, is he a pop star?

[00:27:15] Is he a pop star?

[00:27:16] I think maybe the era of him and Jay-Z.

[00:27:22] Yes.

[00:27:23] But like.

[00:27:24] But then no.

[00:27:24] He's 16th on the list.

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:28] I don't think Jay-Z would want to be considered that either.

[00:27:30] Yeah.

[00:27:30] And I don't think he should necessarily even be on.

[00:27:32] Like, I don't know.

[00:27:33] And like BTS is number 19.

[00:27:37] K-pop is like a religion.

[00:27:39] Yeah.

[00:27:40] What do you mean 19?

[00:27:41] And I like BTS is like the biggest name of all the big names.

[00:27:45] And they used to have girl.

[00:27:46] They used to have boy bands on there.

[00:27:48] You think?

[00:27:48] I don't know.

[00:27:48] Like, why are they so low?

[00:27:50] NSYNC was like number one at one point.

[00:27:52] Yeah.

[00:27:53] In 2000 or something.

[00:27:54] It was 22.

[00:27:57] One Direction?

[00:27:58] One Direction is after Lil Wayne on the pop star ranking.

[00:28:02] Like, it doesn't.

[00:28:03] Like, when you get into this stuff, it's like it doesn't make sense.

[00:28:07] Why is that?

[00:28:08] I mean, it's three.

[00:28:09] Three.

[00:28:10] Any of the, and I say with respect to their careers and longevity, whatever.

[00:28:16] Any of the young money people, Nikki, Drake, Lil Wayne, you guys are done.

[00:28:21] You're past.

[00:28:22] Like, I'm sorry.

[00:28:23] Like, you're past your prime.

[00:28:24] Like, and like, we can say that about Britney and whatever, but it's the global impact I'm

[00:28:28] talking about is for Britney is like, I've seen girls that are on the rise right now.

[00:28:33] I guess there's like a Disney Channel girly that's on the rise in the music industry right

[00:28:36] now.

[00:28:36] That's like doing Britney choreo in her videos, apparently.

[00:28:40] And I'm like, they're not doing that for like Nikki.

[00:28:43] They're not doing that for like, like, I mean, at least they're not doing it for Taylor yet.

[00:28:49] That was the, that was the argument that I had for Britney in terms of impact.

[00:28:53] In my life.

[00:28:53] That's there's like.

[00:28:54] Like, you wouldn't know about any of them, but there's like several little pop girlies

[00:29:00] on the rise that people call like the Tay daughters.

[00:29:04] So like, there is a little bit of that, but it's not as mainstream and it's not as like

[00:29:10] immediately recognizable, but we'll see again.

[00:29:13] We'll see in time.

[00:29:14] It's all subjective.

[00:29:16] It's we're pretty new into the century, only 24 years.

[00:29:19] So this will shift and change because like Drake and Kanye need to be out of the top

[00:29:25] 10 here.

[00:29:26] Like, why is Eminem number 12?

[00:29:29] Oh, don't get me started.

[00:29:31] What are we doing here?

[00:29:33] He's released stinkers.

[00:29:35] Like I can't even like.

[00:29:37] Yeah.

[00:29:38] That one song off of his latest album that people like because it sounds like he made it

[00:29:43] because it's quite literally like a rip off of his previous own music.

[00:29:48] I wouldn't know.

[00:29:49] I just that's not something I think about.

[00:29:52] Truly.

[00:29:52] He is not someone I think about.

[00:29:54] Respectfully.

[00:29:55] I try not to.

[00:29:56] The other day my sister turned to me and was like.

[00:29:59] Eminem, Eminem's mom died.

[00:30:01] And I was like, oh, I thought she was already dead.

[00:30:03] And she was like, I bet he's going to like make some great jokes about it.

[00:30:06] I was like, that's crazy.

[00:30:08] Like, what do you mean?

[00:30:08] Oh my God.

[00:30:09] I thought you were going to say that they're going to start like doing like the Kanye thing.

[00:30:13] They're like, oh, Kanye is crazy because the unfortunate passing of his mother.

[00:30:17] And I'm like, well.

[00:30:18] Yeah.

[00:30:19] I read an argument that Kanye is getting like dosed with laughing gas by his dentist.

[00:30:24] And it's like crazy.

[00:30:27] And I like immediately bought into that theory.

[00:30:29] Like I, it's all alleged.

[00:30:31] There's, I don't think any evidence, but I immediately was like, yep, I believe it.

[00:30:35] Wasn't there screenshots of like a chat?

[00:30:39] There were screenshots of like one of Kanye's staff like posting about it somewhere.

[00:30:44] But it wasn't like, there's not any actual concrete evidence that I know of.

[00:30:51] Okay.

[00:30:51] But I immediately believed it completely.

[00:30:54] Yeah.

[00:30:55] I mean, if, if anyone will take it.

[00:31:00] Yeah.

[00:31:00] Like, I don't know.

[00:31:01] We're all just trying to come up with explanations for why this is happening.

[00:31:05] Um, I'm streaming late registration.

[00:31:11] Um, just a little thing to point out.

[00:31:15] It's not really like a story, but the first episodes of Pop Culture Jeopardy have been posted

[00:31:20] to Amazon Prime and they are very fun.

[00:31:23] I can't wait.

[00:31:24] I have not watched yet and I'm very excited.

[00:31:26] And we need, like pray to God they get renewed for a season two.

[00:31:32] You, me and Sasha.

[00:31:32] Sasha, it's happening.

[00:31:34] Oh, that's, that is a force to be reckoned with.

[00:31:37] And I feel like we would do well.

[00:31:38] I don't know the types of questions yet because I haven't watched it, but.

[00:31:41] And also, I'm going to meet Colin Joes.

[00:31:42] He's cute.

[00:31:45] Honestly, like from what I watched, like I knew a good amount of the answers.

[00:31:50] And I feel like the ones I didn't know, there's a good chance you or Sasha would know.

[00:31:55] Okay.

[00:31:55] So.

[00:31:56] Do you kind of remember like what the topics were?

[00:31:58] Okay.

[00:31:58] There was one category of reality TV people.

[00:32:01] There was.

[00:32:02] Oh my God.

[00:32:02] Okay.

[00:32:02] There was like a category that was all questions about the show Friends.

[00:32:05] There's a category of.

[00:32:09] There was one that was all about the Met Gala.

[00:32:12] Okay.

[00:32:13] There was one about like actors and actresses that like look the same as other actors and

[00:32:18] actresses.

[00:32:19] Like doppelgangers.

[00:32:22] There, there's a lot.

[00:32:24] And it was all like, there was like Broadway musicals.

[00:32:26] There was like lyrics.

[00:32:28] Fun.

[00:32:28] Fun.

[00:32:28] Um, I'm good at lyrics.

[00:32:31] I am.

[00:32:32] I actually feel like we could do it.

[00:32:35] And so we just need that test to open back up and we'll have to, we'll have to jump in.

[00:32:40] Although one of the teams in the first three episodes is three because it's teams of three

[00:32:43] and the team, all three of them had played real Jeopardy before and all came in second

[00:32:49] place.

[00:32:50] Oh.

[00:32:50] And so like they had a bit, I'd save an unfair advantage over the other people who'd never

[00:32:57] played Jeopardy before.

[00:32:59] Okay.

[00:32:59] No spoilers, but I'm not feeling great about them not winning.

[00:33:05] I mean, we, so it's the way it's working is it's like a tournament.

[00:33:09] And so they're doing the first episodes are the knockout tournaments where, um, it's like

[00:33:15] three teams will play and then one team will progress forward.

[00:33:18] And then it's going to, you know, once they're done that round, then it'll be another different

[00:33:23] round and it'll move forward until it's like three teams left and those three teams will

[00:33:27] compete.

[00:33:27] So it's a tournament situation.

[00:33:29] We have no idea what's going to happen in future rounds.

[00:33:32] We don't even know what's going to happen in the rest of round one, but it's a cool concept

[00:33:37] and I felt like it was well executed and I'm excited to watch all of it.

[00:33:41] I'm a big Jeopardy fan.

[00:33:42] And I've always said like during 2020, if like everyone was watching Jeopardy cause we're just

[00:33:46] all at home.

[00:33:47] And I was always telling my dad, because we'd always watch it together.

[00:33:51] He's like, Oh, would you ever go on here?

[00:33:53] And I'm like, dad, I'm not going to pass that damn test.

[00:33:55] You know, like if it was about pop culture and music and maybe sports, then I could

[00:34:01] see myself doing well.

[00:34:04] And here we are.

[00:34:04] Lo and behold.

[00:34:05] No, literally.

[00:34:06] I like, I wish that my parents had signed me up for the Jeopardy kids tournament in like

[00:34:14] 2002 because that like, I think in a field of 10 year olds, me as a 10 year old, I like

[00:34:21] was competitive.

[00:34:21] Like, I think I could have actually done quite well, but then it's like the whole

[00:34:25] like gifted kid thing where you become an adult and then you're just like on an equal

[00:34:29] playing field with adults.

[00:34:31] And you're like, I'm like, Oh, I'm actually like low key kind of dumb.

[00:34:33] Like I used to be smarter than everyone.

[00:34:35] And now I'm like, idiot.

[00:34:38] I don't know anything about countries flags.

[00:34:41] I don't know.

[00:34:42] Oh my God.

[00:34:43] You know, cuisine around the world as much as I would love that.

[00:34:47] You know, I have watched Anthony Bourdain, but like, you know, not enough.

[00:34:52] Exactly.

[00:34:53] And so it's like, this is something where it's like, okay, maybe, although I do maintain

[00:34:58] the show that I would do the best on is Wheel of Fortune period.

[00:35:02] Like I could slay.

[00:35:04] Like we used to watch Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune every night in my house.

[00:35:08] Every single night.

[00:35:09] I was on Wheel of Fortune recently.

[00:35:12] Wait, who?

[00:35:13] My friend Nick was on Wheel of Fortune and he read one of the clues wrong, basically.

[00:35:20] Like he had it solved.

[00:35:22] And then...

[00:35:23] Wait, was he the one with the sausage clue that went viral?

[00:35:26] No, I don't think he went viral.

[00:35:28] Okay.

[00:35:28] It was just kind of like a mid-show type of thing.

[00:35:31] There was one recently where someone tries to like solve the puzzle in the middle of the

[00:35:35] round and they had it.

[00:35:37] It was like clear.

[00:35:39] Like the answer was, give yourself a round of applause.

[00:35:42] It was very obvious.

[00:35:44] And it was like most of the letters filled in.

[00:35:48] Like it was very...

[00:35:48] Like that was the answer.

[00:35:49] Like before they gave their letter to then be able to make a guess, I was like, oh, let's

[00:35:54] give yourself a round of applause.

[00:35:55] And they were like, have yourself a round of sausages.

[00:36:02] Like the letters weren't even...

[00:36:03] It wasn't even like the same number of letters.

[00:36:06] Um, and it went a bit viral, like I don't know, maybe three weeks ago.

[00:36:10] And I watched that video on TikTok maybe 20 times in a row and laughed my ass off every

[00:36:16] single one.

[00:36:17] Because like Wheel of Fortune put me in coach.

[00:36:20] I'm ready to play.

[00:36:22] You should apply.

[00:36:23] Make a little video.

[00:36:24] Yeah, but people look down on...

[00:36:26] Like people are so mean about Wheel of Fortune.

[00:36:28] They're like, oh, it's the show for stupid people.

[00:36:30] That is not true.

[00:36:31] It's not easy.

[00:36:32] Especially the last round.

[00:36:34] That's not easy.

[00:36:35] People look down on it.

[00:36:38] Well...

[00:36:38] And I disagree with them.

[00:36:40] I am not people.

[00:36:42] Maybe I'll look into the Wheel of Fortune application process.

[00:36:46] I'm always wanting to do a freaking game show.

[00:36:48] I've always wanted to do a game show.

[00:36:50] I'm...

[00:36:51] Hello?

[00:36:52] Like I'm always telling.

[00:36:53] So like Brandon Donlan, friend of the podcast, friend of the network.

[00:36:56] He and I...

[00:36:57] I'm always...

[00:36:58] I'm always...

[00:36:59] Absolutely.

[00:36:59] I'm always telling him.

[00:37:01] I'm like, let's do a game show together.

[00:37:03] Let's do a reality show together.

[00:37:05] Kind of as a joke.

[00:37:06] But also like, I'm down if you say yes.

[00:37:08] If you send the application, I'm down.

[00:37:10] And he says, verbatim,

[00:37:13] I would have to carry too much of the medicine

[00:37:16] that you carry regularly in your purse.

[00:37:19] It would weigh me down and we would lose.

[00:37:22] That's his mindset.

[00:37:23] And you know what?

[00:37:24] He's correct.

[00:37:25] I mean, I think that you...

[00:37:28] It would be fine.

[00:37:30] I think you're allowed to have a bag.

[00:37:31] You just wouldn't have it like at the platform.

[00:37:36] This is crazy.

[00:37:37] This is horrible.

[00:37:39] I had to call him out.

[00:37:42] Okay.

[00:37:43] Well, Brandon Donlan,

[00:37:45] I don't carry much medicine at all.

[00:37:47] So maybe we can show him.

[00:37:49] Make Levina jealous.

[00:37:52] I got to get the ibuprofen and the Pepto tablets.

[00:37:55] Like if my tummy hurts and I get anxious, boom.

[00:37:57] Pepto tablet.

[00:37:58] Hello?

[00:37:59] Yeah.

[00:37:59] No, you have to have an antihistamine on hand.

[00:38:02] Oh my God.

[00:38:02] The other day I was itching like crazy.

[00:38:04] I didn't have any on hand.

[00:38:05] I went right into that CBS.

[00:38:07] And I got the little packets.

[00:38:09] I keep the...

[00:38:10] I have the quick dissolve claritins

[00:38:12] that you pop under your tongue

[00:38:14] in case you have a react.

[00:38:15] You could chew them up if you get a reaction.

[00:38:17] Ooh, okay.

[00:38:18] I kind of like a dissolve moment.

[00:38:20] Yeah, you just put it under your tongue

[00:38:21] and it just dissolves

[00:38:22] and it kind of tastes like mint.

[00:38:23] Okay.

[00:38:24] Wait, because sometimes you don't always have water.

[00:38:26] Mm-hmm.

[00:38:27] Right?

[00:38:28] Yeah.

[00:38:29] It's a sleigh.

[00:38:30] Noted.

[00:38:31] Anyways, I'm in my 30s

[00:38:32] in case you couldn't tell.

[00:38:33] I'm 29.

[00:38:35] It happens.

[00:38:36] Okay.

[00:38:37] Now, okay.

[00:38:37] Here's where we get into some stuff.

[00:38:40] I don't...

[00:38:40] I might not even say this correctly.

[00:38:43] And so I'm sorry if that's wrong.

[00:38:45] Levina, have you ever heard of Art Basil in Miami?

[00:38:50] 0%.

[00:38:50] Okay.

[00:38:51] I never heard about it today until today

[00:38:55] when I was looking for stories.

[00:38:56] But so these are...

[00:38:59] It's an event that happens in Miami

[00:39:02] and it is like a bunch of celebrity parties,

[00:39:06] like huge, like massive parties

[00:39:10] that celebrities host.

[00:39:12] And there's a party there every year

[00:39:14] that Nylon Magazine hosts,

[00:39:16] which is like the big...

[00:39:18] It's like the big party.

[00:39:22] And so the...

[00:39:24] Like these like islands,

[00:39:27] like a lot of like residents of these islands

[00:39:30] have been like Gloria Estefan, Shakira,

[00:39:33] Shaquille O'Neal, Diddy.

[00:39:36] Oh, God.

[00:39:37] Like it's like big celebrity parties

[00:39:39] and they have like...

[00:39:44] Like there'll be like performances in the sand

[00:39:47] and like art installations

[00:39:48] and like it's just crazy and it's wild.

[00:39:54] And so a resolution has been put forward

[00:39:57] by like the government of Miami Beach

[00:39:59] that's like we need special...

[00:40:04] Like you can't...

[00:40:05] Like they can't have these parties basically.

[00:40:07] They're like these are not average house parties.

[00:40:09] They are institutional grade event equipment

[00:40:11] with commercial grade speakers,

[00:40:13] large commercial grade party

[00:40:14] and dance floor lighting

[00:40:14] and commercial grade firework displays.

[00:40:17] And so like Nylon's party

[00:40:19] is supposed to happen

[00:40:20] and it could get hit

[00:40:23] with this crackdown on the celebrity parties

[00:40:25] because basically like the residents of this area

[00:40:29] in Miami Beach

[00:40:31] are like enough is enough.

[00:40:33] These crazy parties,

[00:40:34] it's too much.

[00:40:36] So the government is like,

[00:40:39] you might need to have a permit

[00:40:40] if you're going to have a big party

[00:40:42] and like a permit...

[00:40:44] I'm surprised they don't need to have that already

[00:40:47] but Florida's kind of wackadoo, so...

[00:40:48] I think it might be like a special permit

[00:40:50] like above a normal event planning permit

[00:40:54] because it's saying in order to be granted a permit,

[00:40:57] the party host must allow city personnel

[00:40:58] to enter the private property

[00:40:59] for compliance inspections prior to the party

[00:41:03] and during the party at any time.

[00:41:06] And so it's kind of like

[00:41:09] everyone's going to arrive in Miami soon for this

[00:41:11] and it's like a last minute like regulation change

[00:41:16] and you could get arrested.

[00:41:18] They say if the owner, manager, director

[00:41:19] or resident of the property

[00:41:20] does not comply with the cease and desist demand,

[00:41:23] like if they're told to stop,

[00:41:25] the Miami Beach Police Department

[00:41:27] may arrest each owner, manager, director

[00:41:29] or resident for resisting arrest without violence

[00:41:31] or any other applicable charges.

[00:41:35] Anything that has to do with celebrities

[00:41:38] in island and private events

[00:41:41] or what have you is shady to me.

[00:41:43] Like I would not want to be there.

[00:41:45] I'm like, am I going to die here?

[00:41:47] Like that's what I would think.

[00:41:48] Or, you know, in this case, get arrested perhaps.

[00:41:50] Like that's, yeah, it's giving Firefest vibes a little bit.

[00:41:56] Yeah, but like without the public being like welcome,

[00:42:01] it's, I don't know, it's weird.

[00:42:01] I've never heard of this before

[00:42:02] and it seems like it's a huge issue

[00:42:05] and like party crashers come in

[00:42:07] and it also gets super out of control.

[00:42:12] In 2013, Star Island is one of the islands where these happen

[00:42:17] and it was in the headlines during this

[00:42:19] because that is when Paris Hilton's brother claimed

[00:42:22] that Lindsay Lohan ordered a friend

[00:42:24] to like punch him in the face during an all night party.

[00:42:29] So that's where that happened.

[00:42:31] Yeah.

[00:42:32] Okay.

[00:42:32] I think we just think of like Miami and Miami Beach

[00:42:35] as like this is where parties happen

[00:42:37] and it's like, so it's just never occurred to us

[00:42:39] that there's like a specific event that could,

[00:42:42] you know, happen.

[00:42:44] But don't worry.

[00:42:46] The celebrities and homeowners are fighting back

[00:42:49] about the city's new crackdown

[00:42:51] on commercial grade parties.

[00:42:53] Okay.

[00:42:54] That was, I was super worried about that.

[00:42:56] Yeah.

[00:42:57] So the Leonard Hochstein,

[00:43:02] Hochstein is from like Real Housewives of Miami.

[00:43:04] Miami, the CEO of Pharmacy,

[00:43:10] and another resident have filed an emergency motion

[00:43:13] for a temporary injunction against the city.

[00:43:18] Oh my God.

[00:43:19] Because they don't want to have a,

[00:43:21] they don't want to have a permit.

[00:43:22] And they're saying that they have spent

[00:43:24] close to $4 million combined

[00:43:26] on their annual Art Week extravaganzas.

[00:43:30] These people are in a whole different world

[00:43:32] than I am.

[00:43:33] And it's like, remarkably,

[00:43:36] just like, I have to go to work tomorrow.

[00:43:39] Right?

[00:43:39] You know what I mean?

[00:43:40] I have to log in to my computer

[00:43:42] and answer emails and do spreadsheets

[00:43:45] and like draft documents.

[00:43:46] And they're like,

[00:43:47] I spent $1.7 million on my party

[00:43:49] in Miami Beach.

[00:43:51] That is.

[00:43:52] and so,

[00:43:54] this group of residents

[00:43:56] is arguing that the resolution

[00:43:57] is illegal

[00:43:57] because it did not follow

[00:43:59] proper city procedures

[00:44:00] and it's too narrowly tailored

[00:44:01] and it didn't provide sufficient notice.

[00:44:04] Which, that part might be fair.

[00:44:05] Like, the resolution was only signed

[00:44:07] on November 20th,

[00:44:08] which is like,

[00:44:09] only a couple weeks before.

[00:44:10] Which,

[00:44:11] it probably should have been done

[00:44:13] like last year.

[00:44:14] I mean, yeah.

[00:44:16] And I guess they just decided

[00:44:17] enough is enough.

[00:44:18] They reached the last,

[00:44:19] their last straw

[00:44:21] within the past month,

[00:44:23] likely.

[00:44:24] Yeah.

[00:44:24] And so,

[00:44:26] the mayor of Miami Beach

[00:44:28] or vice mayor of Miami Beach

[00:44:30] says,

[00:44:30] legal challenge

[00:44:31] is an attempt to bypass

[00:44:32] a reasonable review

[00:44:33] and permitting processes

[00:44:34] that have been implemented

[00:44:35] to ensure safety

[00:44:36] and protect residents'

[00:44:37] quality of life.

[00:44:38] These organizers know

[00:44:39] their commercial-grade events

[00:44:41] have a documented history

[00:44:42] of creating significant nuisances.

[00:44:43] and disrupting our neighborhoods.

[00:44:45] Not nuisances.

[00:44:47] They're nuisances.

[00:44:49] Yeah, I, yeah.

[00:44:51] You know what?

[00:44:51] It's crazy how

[00:44:52] we don't know

[00:44:54] what's really going down.

[00:44:56] You know?

[00:44:56] Like, the,

[00:44:56] I just assume like,

[00:44:58] oh, they're just partying

[00:44:59] in nightclubs

[00:45:00] around other people.

[00:45:01] Right?

[00:45:01] Yeah.

[00:45:01] Because that's like

[00:45:02] what we do as civilians.

[00:45:04] Exactly.

[00:45:05] But no,

[00:45:06] it's this whole thing.

[00:45:07] Damn.

[00:45:07] It's like in their homes

[00:45:08] around a bunch of other

[00:45:09] really wealthy people.

[00:45:11] And like the

[00:45:13] owner of Nylon Magazine

[00:45:14] is like,

[00:45:15] there's no chance

[00:45:16] the event is not happening.

[00:45:18] So,

[00:45:18] we'll see.

[00:45:20] But anyways,

[00:45:21] these rules came in

[00:45:21] because there was lots

[00:45:22] of complaints in the past

[00:45:23] because it's crazy.

[00:45:27] And so,

[00:45:28] we'll,

[00:45:29] we'll see what happens

[00:45:30] with that.

[00:45:30] But then there was

[00:45:31] one other

[00:45:33] Art Basel,

[00:45:34] Art Basel,

[00:45:35] I don't know how to say it.

[00:45:35] I'm uncultured.

[00:45:36] Sorry.

[00:45:37] That caught my eye.

[00:45:38] And so,

[00:45:40] part of this

[00:45:41] like art week

[00:45:42] is these

[00:45:43] honestly stunning

[00:45:46] wooden

[00:45:49] sculptures

[00:45:49] of elephants

[00:45:50] have been placed

[00:45:54] on

[00:45:55] the beach.

[00:45:56] And it's called

[00:45:57] the Great Elephant

[00:45:58] Migration

[00:45:59] is the,

[00:46:00] is what the

[00:46:01] installation is called.

[00:46:02] It's a herd of

[00:46:03] life-sized Indian

[00:46:04] elephant sculptures.

[00:46:05] It's beautiful.

[00:46:07] But this week

[00:46:08] on Monday night,

[00:46:11] an unidentified

[00:46:12] couple

[00:46:12] of civilians

[00:46:13] were caught

[00:46:14] having sex

[00:46:15] on top

[00:46:16] of one of the

[00:46:16] elephants

[00:46:17] in the display.

[00:46:18] On top?

[00:46:20] On top.

[00:46:21] How does that even,

[00:46:23] I don't even know

[00:46:24] what they got up there.

[00:46:25] Yeah,

[00:46:26] like why would

[00:46:27] people just be

[00:46:28] doing shit?

[00:46:29] I literally,

[00:46:30] I mean,

[00:46:31] I guess like

[00:46:31] if you're gonna have

[00:46:32] sex on the beach,

[00:46:33] like at least

[00:46:34] there's no sand

[00:46:34] on top of the elephants.

[00:46:36] Sculptures,

[00:46:37] I guess.

[00:46:37] But anyways,

[00:46:38] a security guard

[00:46:38] caught them.

[00:46:40] So,

[00:46:41] yeah,

[00:46:42] a security guard

[00:46:42] heard strange noises

[00:46:43] and went over

[00:46:44] with a flashlight

[00:46:44] to investigate.

[00:46:45] He saw a couple

[00:46:46] on top of one

[00:46:46] of the big elephants.

[00:46:47] We do not know

[00:46:48] how they got up there.

[00:46:50] Okay,

[00:46:51] yeah,

[00:46:51] I mean,

[00:46:51] I'm a big proponent,

[00:46:53] strong proponent

[00:46:54] of like,

[00:46:55] do life,

[00:46:56] do experiences,

[00:46:56] have stories to tell.

[00:46:58] But like,

[00:46:59] I don't know

[00:47:00] if that would be

[00:47:00] my thing.

[00:47:01] Yeah,

[00:47:02] maybe not for me,

[00:47:03] but hey,

[00:47:03] they didn't get arrested.

[00:47:05] The guard just said,

[00:47:05] get out of here

[00:47:07] and they left.

[00:47:08] He's like,

[00:47:08] I'm sick of this.

[00:47:09] I'm sick of these people.

[00:47:11] He's like,

[00:47:11] not my first time

[00:47:12] catching someone

[00:47:13] that makes sex here.

[00:47:15] Yep.

[00:47:16] So now the piece

[00:47:17] has extra security

[00:47:19] all day,

[00:47:20] every day.

[00:47:21] And yeah,

[00:47:22] these elephants

[00:47:24] were last on display

[00:47:25] in New York

[00:47:26] and they're now

[00:47:27] in Miami Beach

[00:47:29] and they

[00:47:31] are fashioned

[00:47:32] from a repurposed

[00:47:33] invasive weed

[00:47:35] by a community

[00:47:37] of artisans

[00:47:37] called the Real

[00:47:38] Elephant Collective

[00:47:39] in Southern India,

[00:47:41] which is so cool.

[00:47:43] I love that.

[00:47:44] Indian art

[00:47:45] is incredible.

[00:47:46] So beautiful.

[00:47:47] Everything comes out

[00:47:47] of that country

[00:47:48] is remarkable.

[00:47:50] A lot of things

[00:47:51] that come out

[00:47:51] of that country

[00:47:51] is remarkable.

[00:47:52] The food?

[00:47:53] Well,

[00:47:53] yes.

[00:47:54] Get me started.

[00:47:56] There's just,

[00:47:57] there's so many people.

[00:47:58] It would be weird

[00:48:00] if nothing remarkable

[00:48:01] was coming out of that.

[00:48:02] Yeah.

[00:48:03] And there's so much

[00:48:05] that comes out

[00:48:06] that's great.

[00:48:06] But yeah,

[00:48:07] so if you're in Miami Beach,

[00:48:09] you can maybe go see

[00:48:10] some of the Miami

[00:48:12] Art Week installations,

[00:48:13] including the elephants.

[00:48:14] Please,

[00:48:15] let us know.

[00:48:16] Don't disrespect it.

[00:48:17] Do not disrespect.

[00:48:21] But yeah,

[00:48:21] I thought that was

[00:48:23] interesting

[00:48:24] because it's something

[00:48:24] I've just never known.

[00:48:25] I never knew that

[00:48:26] like Miami Art Week,

[00:48:27] which they call

[00:48:27] Art Basel or Basel,

[00:48:31] is a thing.

[00:48:31] And now I know

[00:48:32] so much more about it.

[00:48:34] Thanks to literally

[00:48:35] nothing happening

[00:48:36] this week.

[00:48:37] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:38] Except Spotify Wrapped.

[00:48:40] Really?

[00:48:41] Spotify Wrapped.

[00:48:41] Yeah.

[00:48:42] Yeah.

[00:48:45] Sabrina Carpenter

[00:48:46] and Barry Kogan

[00:48:47] are, quote,

[00:48:48] taking a break

[00:48:48] from their one-year

[00:48:49] relationship,

[00:48:50] but that would

[00:48:52] involve me

[00:48:52] having to believe

[00:48:53] that their relationship

[00:48:53] is real.

[00:48:55] So.

[00:48:57] Yeah.

[00:48:58] So.

[00:48:59] Hmm.

[00:49:00] Do I be nice?

[00:49:02] Um,

[00:49:02] I say be medium.

[00:49:04] Okay.

[00:49:06] First of all,

[00:49:07] I didn't know

[00:49:07] that's how you say his name.

[00:49:08] That's the first time

[00:49:09] I've ever heard it

[00:49:09] pronounced out loud.

[00:49:10] Well, he's Irish.

[00:49:11] He's Irish.

[00:49:11] Those Irish names

[00:49:12] are a little,

[00:49:13] a little tricky.

[00:49:14] Gotcha.

[00:49:15] Oh, like Siobhan,

[00:49:16] which is such a pretty name.

[00:49:17] I love that.

[00:49:17] Exactly.

[00:49:18] Um,

[00:49:19] yes.

[00:49:19] So I,

[00:49:20] um,

[00:49:22] it's the audacity for me.

[00:49:24] If like,

[00:49:24] let's say it's a real relationship,

[00:49:26] it's the whole thing,

[00:49:26] whatever.

[00:49:27] I saw a girl tweet

[00:49:28] about them

[00:49:30] saying,

[00:49:30] I feel like now's

[00:49:31] a good time for me

[00:49:32] to say that I saw

[00:49:33] Sabrina and Barry

[00:49:33] at a bagel shop

[00:49:35] like earlier this year

[00:49:37] and she paid for him

[00:49:38] and someone said,

[00:49:39] if you cheat on a woman

[00:49:40] way hotter than you

[00:49:42] who buys you bagels,

[00:49:44] guillotine,

[00:49:45] guillotine.

[00:49:46] Like,

[00:49:46] what are we doing here?

[00:49:48] How can you

[00:49:49] have the audacity?

[00:49:51] Men.

[00:49:52] And yet they do.

[00:49:54] I'm like,

[00:49:54] has he seen his

[00:49:56] child lately?

[00:49:58] When's the last time

[00:49:59] he saw his baby?

[00:50:00] That's what I would

[00:50:01] like to know.

[00:50:02] Um,

[00:50:03] yeah,

[00:50:03] it's interesting.

[00:50:04] And like,

[00:50:05] there's a pretty,

[00:50:06] like,

[00:50:06] Kate,

[00:50:07] would you believe

[00:50:09] that Barry

[00:50:10] is born in the exact

[00:50:11] same year as myself

[00:50:12] and Puyasana Vakili

[00:50:14] and Tarrant Armstrong

[00:50:15] and Asia Welch?

[00:50:17] No,

[00:50:17] no,

[00:50:18] no.

[00:50:18] He's our age.

[00:50:19] That's,

[00:50:21] that's crazy.

[00:50:22] He's,

[00:50:23] he,

[00:50:23] he just looks,

[00:50:25] he looks 10 years

[00:50:27] older than that.

[00:50:29] At least.

[00:50:31] when I,

[00:50:32] like,

[00:50:32] I,

[00:50:32] I'm not someone

[00:50:33] who's like,

[00:50:34] look at me.

[00:50:35] I look so,

[00:50:36] it's so funny

[00:50:36] because at the time

[00:50:37] of recording,

[00:50:38] I literally look

[00:50:38] like a grandma,

[00:50:39] but like,

[00:50:40] um,

[00:50:41] when I look good,

[00:50:41] I'm like,

[00:50:43] uh,

[00:50:43] I'm not like,

[00:50:44] oh,

[00:50:44] I look so,

[00:50:45] yeah,

[00:50:45] like,

[00:50:45] I'm like,

[00:50:45] I'm 32 years old.

[00:50:47] I feel I look my age.

[00:50:49] That's fine.

[00:50:50] I don't need to be like,

[00:50:51] oh,

[00:50:52] I look 25.

[00:50:52] No,

[00:50:53] I don't need that.

[00:50:53] It's fine.

[00:50:54] I'm happy to look my age.

[00:50:55] Um,

[00:50:57] but like,

[00:50:57] when I saw that he was born

[00:50:58] in 1992,

[00:50:59] I was like,

[00:51:00] oh,

[00:51:02] yeah.

[00:51:03] I thought she was dating

[00:51:04] a guy way older than her.

[00:51:05] But he is still like,

[00:51:08] I think she just turned 25.

[00:51:10] So it's still like a seven year gap,

[00:51:12] which is only crazy

[00:51:13] when you're in your mid twenties.

[00:51:15] Yeah.

[00:51:16] But like,

[00:51:17] it is definitely looks

[00:51:19] like a bigger gap.

[00:51:20] Yeah.

[00:51:21] I mean,

[00:51:22] that's how it appears.

[00:51:24] Yeah.

[00:51:24] That's,

[00:51:25] um,

[00:51:25] that is disappointing.

[00:51:27] Like,

[00:51:28] I'm sorry,

[00:51:29] but when I saw

[00:51:30] that like Beyonce

[00:51:31] was getting cheated on,

[00:51:34] anyone's like,

[00:51:35] what is it?

[00:51:36] Like,

[00:51:36] what is my hope?

[00:51:37] You know,

[00:51:38] what is the hope

[00:51:38] for the rest of us?

[00:51:39] Like men are going to do,

[00:51:41] do the men thing

[00:51:42] that they always do.

[00:51:43] I,

[00:51:44] anyone can get cheated on.

[00:51:46] Um,

[00:51:46] it just depends on who,

[00:51:48] making sure to find someone

[00:51:49] who you don't think

[00:51:50] would do that.

[00:51:51] Yeah.

[00:51:51] Yeah.

[00:51:52] Yeah.

[00:51:52] that's the baseline

[00:51:53] of it all,

[00:51:54] isn't it?

[00:51:56] Yeah.

[00:51:57] Um,

[00:51:58] so

[00:52:01] anyways,

[00:52:02] they took a break.

[00:52:02] I will see what happens

[00:52:03] with that.

[00:52:04] I don't believe

[00:52:04] we were on a break.

[00:52:06] We were on a break.

[00:52:07] That's an answer

[00:52:08] to one of the questions

[00:52:09] on pop culture.

[00:52:10] I figured.

[00:52:10] I thought that too.

[00:52:11] Um,

[00:52:13] I'm,

[00:52:13] I am not going to get

[00:52:15] into it at all

[00:52:16] because it's not entertaining,

[00:52:17] but that rat,

[00:52:19] Maddie Healy,

[00:52:20] has been getting

[00:52:21] some attention

[00:52:21] on Twitter again.

[00:52:23] Um,

[00:52:24] he allegedly threatened

[00:52:25] a fan via DM

[00:52:27] for saying something

[00:52:28] about his fiance,

[00:52:30] maybe wife,

[00:52:30] I don't know.

[00:52:31] And then he was like

[00:52:32] going back and forth

[00:52:33] to the Zellia Banks

[00:52:34] for a while.

[00:52:35] And

[00:52:36] what's the number one

[00:52:37] rule of mess magnets?

[00:52:38] We do not beat

[00:52:39] for the Zellia Banks.

[00:52:40] I'm like over her.

[00:52:42] Like,

[00:52:42] I get it.

[00:52:43] It's funny and stuff.

[00:52:44] I guess

[00:52:45] when she calls people out

[00:52:46] and she,

[00:52:47] so sometimes she has

[00:52:48] like a moment of like

[00:52:49] clarity,

[00:52:50] you know,

[00:52:51] the Zellia moment of

[00:52:52] occasionally.

[00:52:53] Points were made.

[00:52:54] Okay.

[00:52:54] She read him.

[00:52:54] We get it.

[00:52:55] Like when she reads

[00:52:56] like awful men or whatever,

[00:52:57] but like,

[00:52:58] you know,

[00:52:58] I saw a lot of it

[00:52:59] where she's just like,

[00:53:00] I hate Charlie

[00:53:01] and then defending Charlie.

[00:53:03] I hate Charlie

[00:53:04] defending Charlie.

[00:53:05] That's just like her energy

[00:53:07] and I'm just kind of over it

[00:53:08] because a lot of the stuff

[00:53:09] she says is like

[00:53:10] not to be that woke friend

[00:53:11] or whatever,

[00:53:12] but like it's

[00:53:14] incredibly problematic

[00:53:15] to the point where

[00:53:15] it makes me uncomfortable

[00:53:16] like it's not even like funny.

[00:53:18] It's not at all funny.

[00:53:20] Like it is problematic

[00:53:21] and I'm kind of over

[00:53:22] like her.

[00:53:25] I don't really know

[00:53:26] too much about Maddie Healy.

[00:53:28] I think he's engaged to

[00:53:30] Gabrielle.

[00:53:31] Yeah.

[00:53:32] Yeah.

[00:53:33] And the only reason I know that

[00:53:34] is because of Charlie.

[00:53:35] That's the only reason.

[00:53:37] And Maddie Healy

[00:53:39] is the muse

[00:53:40] for some of

[00:53:41] Taylor Swift's

[00:53:42] most scathing songs

[00:53:43] that came out this.

[00:53:43] It's like actually

[00:53:44] can live in it.

[00:53:45] You will like this lore.

[00:53:46] So Taylor Swift was in a

[00:53:47] six year relationship

[00:53:48] that ended

[00:53:49] in like spring 2023.

[00:53:52] She then dated

[00:53:53] Maddie Healy

[00:53:54] for like

[00:53:55] I don't know

[00:53:56] like two months

[00:53:57] maybe three months.

[00:53:58] And then

[00:53:59] when she released

[00:54:00] her album

[00:54:00] The Torture Poets

[00:54:01] Department

[00:54:02] this spring

[00:54:02] everyone was like

[00:54:03] oh my god

[00:54:03] we're gonna hear about Joe.

[00:54:05] She wrote

[00:54:06] like 31 songs

[00:54:07] because it turned out

[00:54:08] to be a surprise

[00:54:09] double album.

[00:54:10] And

[00:54:11] maybe like

[00:54:12] four of them

[00:54:12] are about Joe

[00:54:13] and like

[00:54:14] 25 of them

[00:54:15] are like

[00:54:15] clearly about

[00:54:16] Maddie Healy.

[00:54:17] Are you talking about

[00:54:18] Joe

[00:54:19] Jonas?

[00:54:19] Joe Alwyn.

[00:54:21] Joe Alwyn.

[00:54:22] Okay.

[00:54:23] Who's like a British

[00:54:24] he's a British actor.

[00:54:25] I like

[00:54:26] only know he exists

[00:54:27] because of Taylor Swift.

[00:54:28] Like he's been in

[00:54:29] a couple of things

[00:54:29] but I feel like

[00:54:30] he is not like

[00:54:32] famous for other reasons.

[00:54:34] Okay.

[00:54:35] I thought you meant

[00:54:36] because

[00:54:36] Joe Jonas

[00:54:37] did he date her?

[00:54:39] He did.

[00:54:39] Like way back.

[00:54:40] That was like

[00:54:41] Taylor's album

[00:54:42] from like

[00:54:44] 2010

[00:54:44] has a lot of

[00:54:45] Joe Jonas on it.

[00:54:47] And actually

[00:54:49] she did

[00:54:50] like she does

[00:54:50] the surprise songs

[00:54:51] where she's like

[00:54:52] mashing up two songs

[00:54:53] and at my show

[00:54:53] she literally sang

[00:54:54] like

[00:54:56] two songs

[00:54:57] basically like

[00:54:57] Joe Jonas

[00:54:58] found dead

[00:54:58] after those two songs

[00:54:59] were mashed together.

[00:55:00] It was iconic.

[00:55:02] Okay.

[00:55:02] I like that.

[00:55:05] Yeah.

[00:55:07] But yeah

[00:55:08] so they're fighting.

[00:55:10] It's two people

[00:55:10] that we don't

[00:55:11] need to care about

[00:55:12] that much

[00:55:13] but it happened

[00:55:13] and I was like

[00:55:14] we're a little light

[00:55:15] on info this week.

[00:55:17] I mean I'm so over her.

[00:55:19] Period.

[00:55:20] Period.

[00:55:22] 2128 though.

[00:55:23] Oh.

[00:55:24] You never lied.

[00:55:26] 212 is so good.

[00:55:27] I was in a spin class

[00:55:28] recently

[00:55:28] and they

[00:55:29] played 212

[00:55:31] as part of like

[00:55:32] it was part of like

[00:55:33] a remix of a bunch of stuff

[00:55:34] but 212 was like

[00:55:34] the main

[00:55:35] like a beat.

[00:55:36] It was so good.

[00:55:37] I think Structure's like

[00:55:38] do you guys like this song?

[00:55:40] And I was like

[00:55:40] woo!

[00:55:41] And I was the only one.

[00:55:42] No one else

[00:55:42] knew the song.

[00:55:44] What?

[00:55:45] Okay.

[00:55:45] Get into 1991

[00:55:46] as well.

[00:55:47] Get into that.

[00:55:48] Yeah.

[00:55:49] There's so good songs.

[00:55:50] I was literally like

[00:55:53] am I the crypt keeper?

[00:55:56] That's me.

[00:55:59] We'll find out

[00:56:00] I guess.

[00:56:00] Okay.

[00:56:01] Last

[00:56:03] story

[00:56:04] of the day.

[00:56:06] You mentioned

[00:56:07] Ben Affleck

[00:56:09] and Jennifer Garner

[00:56:10] being seen together

[00:56:11] as something to talk about

[00:56:13] and I was like

[00:56:15] yes

[00:56:16] we should talk about it

[00:56:18] but what I didn't realize

[00:56:19] is that there's actually

[00:56:20] like a

[00:56:21] very hilarious story

[00:56:23] with this.

[00:56:24] So

[00:56:25] I assumed

[00:56:26] they were seen together

[00:56:26] it was like

[00:56:27] what are they like

[00:56:27] getting back together

[00:56:28] but no

[00:56:29] they're not getting

[00:56:30] back together.

[00:56:31] They have a good

[00:56:32] co-parenting relationship

[00:56:33] and she's in a relationship

[00:56:35] but

[00:56:37] Ben Affleck

[00:56:38] is asking

[00:56:39] Jennifer Garner

[00:56:40] to like set him up

[00:56:41] with someone

[00:56:41] and like find

[00:56:42] a new partner

[00:56:43] for him.

[00:56:43] How do we know this?

[00:56:45] How does he

[00:56:46] need help

[00:56:47] getting set up?

[00:56:48] There are several

[00:56:49] articles

[00:56:51] that came out

[00:56:52] today

[00:56:54] that made me laugh.

[00:56:56] I need to

[00:56:57] I need to know more.

[00:56:59] It made me laugh

[00:57:00] so hard

[00:57:02] so that's

[00:57:04] that's what's going

[00:57:05] like we don't even

[00:57:06] know anything else

[00:57:07] it's just like

[00:57:08] he's asking her

[00:57:09] to set him up

[00:57:10] and

[00:57:11] he's got some work

[00:57:12] on the

[00:57:13] timeline

[00:57:13] like the pipeline

[00:57:14] I

[00:57:15] this is like

[00:57:16] last time we recorded

[00:57:17] together there was

[00:57:17] like a million

[00:57:18] stories about JLo

[00:57:19] and Ben Affleck

[00:57:20] like when we like

[00:57:21] thought they were

[00:57:22] getting divorced

[00:57:22] but we didn't know

[00:57:23] for sure

[00:57:23] for sure

[00:57:24] it was like

[00:57:24] this timeline

[00:57:25] it was like

[00:57:26] that level

[00:57:27] of like articles

[00:57:28] about him

[00:57:28] not wanting

[00:57:29] any drama

[00:57:30] anymore

[00:57:30] about him

[00:57:32] asking to get

[00:57:33] set up

[00:57:33] and then an article

[00:57:34] about like

[00:57:34] JLo's Instagram

[00:57:35] story after he

[00:57:37] was seen with

[00:57:37] Jennifer Garner

[00:57:38] and I was like

[00:57:38] this is ridiculous

[00:57:40] yeah I

[00:57:41] I just think

[00:57:42] he's really funny

[00:57:42] because it's like

[00:57:43] he like he'll

[00:57:45] never be seen

[00:57:46] with someone

[00:57:47] new

[00:57:48] like I kind

[00:57:49] of live

[00:57:49] like he's

[00:57:50] just like

[00:57:50] you know what

[00:57:53] well and where

[00:57:54] did he learn

[00:57:54] that from

[00:57:54] JLo

[00:57:55] JLo

[00:57:56] seems to have

[00:57:56] a roster

[00:57:57] of exes

[00:57:57] that she goes

[00:57:58] back to

[00:57:58] and good

[00:57:59] for her

[00:57:59] is A-Rod

[00:58:00] married

[00:58:01] he's next

[00:58:02] I think

[00:58:03] I think so

[00:58:04] I think

[00:58:05] people are

[00:58:06] saying he's

[00:58:07] gonna be

[00:58:07] next

[00:58:08] I was kind

[00:58:09] of living

[00:58:09] at the time

[00:58:10] I was like

[00:58:10] this is a

[00:58:11] match

[00:58:12] like I

[00:58:12] love

[00:58:13] an athlete

[00:58:15] singer

[00:58:15] duo

[00:58:16] it's kind

[00:58:17] of a vibe

[00:58:17] like I think

[00:58:18] it's so good

[00:58:19] I agree

[00:58:20] like celebrity

[00:58:21] vibe

[00:58:22] like urge

[00:58:22] like an athlete

[00:58:22] and a celebrity

[00:58:23] doesn't have

[00:58:24] to be

[00:58:24] literally

[00:58:26] always

[00:58:27] it's the

[00:58:28] best

[00:58:29] okay

[00:58:30] are you ready

[00:58:31] for an anonymous

[00:58:32] let's do it

[00:58:33] okay

[00:58:35] um

[00:58:36] so

[00:58:39] this

[00:58:40] is

[00:58:40] oh wow

[00:58:41] I actually

[00:58:41] scrolled way

[00:58:42] down to the

[00:58:42] wrong one

[00:58:43] so

[00:58:44] this isn't

[00:58:45] really a fun

[00:58:45] mess

[00:58:46] this is a

[00:58:46] sad mess

[00:58:47] and so

[00:58:47] I'm sorry

[00:58:48] about that

[00:58:48] um

[00:58:49] but our

[00:58:50] messenger

[00:58:51] has lived

[00:58:52] next to

[00:58:52] the same

[00:58:53] man

[00:58:53] who we're

[00:58:54] gonna call

[00:58:54] James

[00:58:54] for over

[00:58:55] 20 years

[00:58:56] and James

[00:58:57] did pass

[00:58:58] away

[00:58:58] recently

[00:58:59] um

[00:59:01] he

[00:59:01] but he

[00:59:01] was old

[00:59:02] he lived

[00:59:02] a long

[00:59:02] life

[00:59:03] and he

[00:59:05] um

[00:59:06] worked

[00:59:07] in the

[00:59:07] entertainment

[00:59:08] industry

[00:59:08] as a

[00:59:08] background

[00:59:08] actor

[00:59:09] who was

[00:59:09] a good

[00:59:09] neighbor

[00:59:09] so

[00:59:10] a few

[00:59:12] years ago

[00:59:13] he had

[00:59:14] cancer

[00:59:14] and he

[00:59:15] had stopped

[00:59:16] working

[00:59:17] and after

[00:59:17] that time

[00:59:18] there was

[00:59:18] like several

[00:59:19] instances

[00:59:19] of James

[00:59:20] asking our

[00:59:21] messenger

[00:59:21] to help

[00:59:22] him with

[00:59:22] computer

[00:59:23] stuff

[00:59:23] and like

[00:59:24] pay

[00:59:24] I'm gonna

[00:59:25] cry

[00:59:25] okay

[00:59:27] so one

[00:59:28] time he

[00:59:28] called

[00:59:28] like several

[00:59:29] times

[00:59:30] while our

[00:59:31] messenger

[00:59:31] was at

[00:59:31] work

[00:59:31] asking

[00:59:32] like when

[00:59:32] will you

[00:59:33] be home

[00:59:33] to help

[00:59:33] me with

[00:59:33] my tech

[00:59:34] issues

[00:59:35] and they

[00:59:35] our

[00:59:35] messenger

[00:59:36] went over

[00:59:36] the next

[00:59:36] day

[00:59:36] and it

[00:59:37] was about

[00:59:37] a paypal

[00:59:37] issue

[00:59:38] and like

[00:59:39] a messaging

[00:59:39] issue

[00:59:41] and

[00:59:43] while

[00:59:43] our

[00:59:44] messenger

[00:59:44] is helping

[00:59:44] him

[00:59:45] there are

[00:59:45] all these

[00:59:45] like google

[00:59:46] chat

[00:59:46] messages

[00:59:46] open

[00:59:47] and like

[00:59:48] all this

[00:59:49] stuff

[00:59:49] and James

[00:59:50] mentions

[00:59:52] that he

[00:59:52] is like

[00:59:54] talking to

[00:59:55] a woman

[00:59:55] online

[00:59:55] who wants

[00:59:56] to be

[00:59:56] an actor

[00:59:58] and

[01:00:00] it's like

[01:00:01] okay

[01:00:01] so James

[01:00:02] is like

[01:00:02] talking

[01:00:02] to women

[01:00:02] um

[01:00:03] and then

[01:00:04] as our

[01:00:05] messenger

[01:00:05] moves on

[01:00:05] to paypal

[01:00:06] they see

[01:00:07] like a ton

[01:00:07] of different

[01:00:08] payments

[01:00:08] to different

[01:00:08] types of

[01:00:09] accounts

[01:00:10] um

[01:00:11] which our

[01:00:11] messenger

[01:00:11] thought was

[01:00:12] weird

[01:00:12] but is

[01:00:13] like not

[01:00:13] going to

[01:00:13] tell people

[01:00:14] how to

[01:00:14] spend their

[01:00:14] money

[01:00:15] but then

[01:00:16] she realized

[01:00:17] that the

[01:00:18] names on

[01:00:18] the paypal

[01:00:19] name lines

[01:00:20] match up

[01:00:20] with the google

[01:00:21] chat messages

[01:00:21] and they're

[01:00:22] all women

[01:00:22] oh god

[01:00:23] so again

[01:00:24] not going

[01:00:25] to tell an

[01:00:25] adult how

[01:00:26] to spend

[01:00:26] their money

[01:00:26] but like

[01:00:27] alarm bells

[01:00:27] were going

[01:00:28] off

[01:00:28] on his

[01:00:29] behalf

[01:00:29] like on

[01:00:31] our

[01:00:31] yeah

[01:00:31] on our

[01:00:32] on our

[01:00:33] messenger's

[01:00:33] neighbors

[01:00:34] James

[01:00:34] behalf

[01:00:34] yeah

[01:00:35] our messenger

[01:00:36] has alarm

[01:00:36] bells for

[01:00:37] James

[01:00:37] um and

[01:00:38] so then

[01:00:38] a couple

[01:00:39] of weeks

[01:00:39] later

[01:00:40] our messenger

[01:00:40] gets asked

[01:00:41] to help

[01:00:41] with

[01:00:43] paypal

[01:00:43] again

[01:00:45] and so

[01:00:45] they go

[01:00:46] back over

[01:00:47] and they're

[01:00:48] like okay

[01:00:48] i'm gonna help

[01:00:49] you with

[01:00:50] your paypal

[01:00:50] again

[01:00:52] um

[01:00:52] um and

[01:00:57] they they

[01:00:58] she she's

[01:00:59] like helping

[01:00:59] him with

[01:00:59] his paypal

[01:01:00] um talking

[01:01:02] about this

[01:01:02] woman that

[01:01:03] we're calling

[01:01:03] angela who

[01:01:04] is an

[01:01:06] aspiring

[01:01:06] actor who

[01:01:08] is like

[01:01:09] maybe in

[01:01:10] their 30s

[01:01:11] maybe looks

[01:01:12] a little

[01:01:12] familiar

[01:01:13] and then

[01:01:15] it's angela

[01:01:17] is the

[01:01:17] adult actress

[01:01:18] angela white

[01:01:19] like it's

[01:01:19] like an

[01:01:20] adult actresses

[01:01:21] picture being

[01:01:21] used on

[01:01:22] this account

[01:01:23] okay

[01:01:24] um

[01:01:26] and so

[01:01:26] now our

[01:01:27] messenger is

[01:01:27] like pumping

[01:01:27] james for

[01:01:28] information

[01:01:28] how did

[01:01:29] you meet

[01:01:29] her how

[01:01:29] do you

[01:01:30] talk to

[01:01:30] her have

[01:01:30] you sent

[01:01:31] her money

[01:01:32] uh

[01:01:34] and

[01:01:36] our

[01:01:36] messenger is

[01:01:37] like while

[01:01:37] while she's

[01:01:38] asking all

[01:01:38] these questions

[01:01:38] it's like

[01:01:39] looking a

[01:01:39] little bit

[01:01:40] more at the

[01:01:40] messages and

[01:01:41] the paypals

[01:01:41] and the

[01:01:41] names and

[01:01:42] the message

[01:01:42] profiles don't

[01:01:43] match the

[01:01:43] emails on

[01:01:44] the paypal

[01:01:44] accounts and

[01:01:46] there's money

[01:01:47] changing hands

[01:01:47] everything is

[01:01:48] through like a

[01:01:48] shitty platform

[01:01:49] like google

[01:01:49] chat our

[01:01:51] messenger is

[01:01:51] like pretty

[01:01:52] sure like james

[01:01:52] is clearly

[01:01:53] being catfished

[01:01:54] at this point

[01:01:56] yeah literally

[01:01:58] um and so

[01:01:59] our messenger

[01:01:59] knows james

[01:02:01] who's super

[01:02:01] nice and

[01:02:01] considerate

[01:02:02] he's old

[01:02:03] and recently

[01:02:04] ill

[01:02:05] and our

[01:02:06] messenger is

[01:02:07] armed with a

[01:02:07] lot of

[01:02:07] information about

[01:02:08] internet safety

[01:02:09] and catfishing

[01:02:09] and has to

[01:02:10] decide like

[01:02:11] do i tell

[01:02:11] james he's

[01:02:12] being catfished

[01:02:13] i don't know

[01:02:13] what to do

[01:02:15] damn

[01:02:15] and they

[01:02:17] ultimately decided

[01:02:18] not to tell

[01:02:19] james that

[01:02:20] he was getting

[01:02:21] catfished

[01:02:22] um like

[01:02:23] why like this

[01:02:24] is like a

[01:02:25] bright spot

[01:02:26] in james life

[01:02:26] like he's

[01:02:27] not doing

[01:02:27] well like

[01:02:28] why take

[01:02:29] that away

[01:02:29] from him

[01:02:30] kind of

[01:02:30] vibes uh

[01:02:32] and then

[01:02:32] ultimately james

[01:02:34] passed away a

[01:02:34] few months

[01:02:34] after that

[01:02:35] and as far

[01:02:36] as our

[01:02:36] messenger knows

[01:02:37] he never

[01:02:38] knew he

[01:02:39] was being

[01:02:39] catfished

[01:02:40] in that case

[01:02:42] then i do

[01:02:43] agree with

[01:02:44] our messenger

[01:02:45] because if

[01:02:47] she knows that

[01:02:47] he's sick

[01:02:48] and maybe this

[01:02:49] is giving

[01:02:50] him a little

[01:02:50] bit of light

[01:02:51] in his day

[01:02:52] then just

[01:02:54] yeah let it

[01:02:55] be i agree

[01:02:56] at first i

[01:02:57] was like no

[01:02:57] tell him

[01:02:58] but no

[01:02:58] i agree

[01:02:59] yeah i

[01:03:00] think

[01:03:01] it's important

[01:03:02] to like

[01:03:03] help the you

[01:03:04] know the

[01:03:04] more seasoned

[01:03:05] people in

[01:03:05] your life

[01:03:06] to know

[01:03:06] about like

[01:03:07] catfishing

[01:03:08] and like

[01:03:09] online fraud

[01:03:10] and scams

[01:03:10] for sure

[01:03:13] but it

[01:03:14] there's also

[01:03:14] like you

[01:03:15] don't have

[01:03:15] to like

[01:03:16] kick someone

[01:03:16] while they're

[01:03:17] down

[01:03:17] if you know

[01:03:18] that they

[01:03:20] don't have a

[01:03:21] lot of time

[01:03:21] left

[01:03:22] this is a

[01:03:22] very specific

[01:03:23] scenario

[01:03:24] but then

[01:03:25] also like

[01:03:26] what there

[01:03:26] could be an

[01:03:26] anonymous from

[01:03:27] like james's

[01:03:28] child who's

[01:03:29] like my dad

[01:03:31] passed away and

[01:03:31] left all his

[01:03:32] money to a

[01:03:32] catfish like

[01:03:34] yeah i don't

[01:03:36] know it's

[01:03:36] sad i feel

[01:03:38] like maybe

[01:03:39] she would have

[01:03:39] indicated that

[01:03:40] oh yeah i

[01:03:41] hope so

[01:03:42] i would that i

[01:03:43] feel like that

[01:03:43] would go into

[01:03:44] the thought

[01:03:45] process of the

[01:03:46] decision

[01:03:46] you're right

[01:03:47] you're right

[01:03:48] the messengers

[01:03:50] are smart

[01:03:51] the messengers

[01:03:52] are smart

[01:03:52] but yeah so

[01:03:53] it's a super

[01:03:54] sad one but

[01:03:54] it is very

[01:03:55] messy we

[01:03:56] have

[01:03:59] very few

[01:04:00] anonymous

[01:04:01] left in the

[01:04:02] hopper right

[01:04:02] now if we

[01:04:04] do not get

[01:04:05] an influx of

[01:04:05] anonymous

[01:04:06] mess we

[01:04:07] will not be

[01:04:07] able to do

[01:04:08] an oops

[01:04:09] all anonymous

[01:04:09] for our

[01:04:10] live on

[01:04:11] youtube podcast

[01:04:12] we will have

[01:04:13] to become like

[01:04:14] a reddit

[01:04:14] stories podcast

[01:04:15] is that what

[01:04:16] you want

[01:04:17] messengers a

[01:04:18] reddit

[01:04:18] stories podcast

[01:04:19] please go

[01:04:20] to mess

[01:04:20] magnets.com

[01:04:22] and fill

[01:04:23] in the form

[01:04:24] and tell us

[01:04:25] your mess it

[01:04:25] could be sad

[01:04:26] mess it

[01:04:26] could be funny

[01:04:27] mess it

[01:04:27] could be just

[01:04:27] dramatic mess

[01:04:28] just tell us

[01:04:29] the story

[01:04:30] we're literally

[01:04:31] begging

[01:04:32] yes please

[01:04:33] give the mess

[01:04:34] i might give

[01:04:35] a mess

[01:04:36] myself

[01:04:37] one day

[01:04:37] i would love

[01:04:39] and you'll

[01:04:39] never know

[01:04:42] i

[01:04:44] would be

[01:04:45] dying for

[01:04:46] i would live

[01:04:46] and die

[01:04:47] for your

[01:04:47] mess whether

[01:04:47] it's an

[01:04:48] anonymous

[01:04:48] or just like

[01:04:49] telling you

[01:04:51] hey

[01:04:52] never believe

[01:04:54] oh my god

[01:04:55] imagine but

[01:04:56] yes so that

[01:04:57] that brings us

[01:04:58] to the end of

[01:04:59] our episode

[01:05:00] we did it

[01:05:01] another mess

[01:05:01] magnets

[01:05:02] in the

[01:05:02] can

[01:05:03] great job

[01:05:04] lavina

[01:05:04] thank you

[01:05:05] for having

[01:05:06] me you know

[01:05:06] i love

[01:05:07] being here

[01:05:07] i love talking

[01:05:08] any type of

[01:05:09] mess celebrity

[01:05:09] whatever

[01:05:10] reality

[01:05:11] you know

[01:05:12] real life

[01:05:13] mess i'm down

[01:05:14] we and we

[01:05:15] love having

[01:05:16] you um

[01:05:17] for the listeners

[01:05:18] if they do not

[01:05:18] know where else

[01:05:19] that they can

[01:05:19] find you

[01:05:20] where can they

[01:05:20] find you

[01:05:21] you can find

[01:05:22] me on all

[01:05:23] social media

[01:05:23] including blue sky

[01:05:24] now um

[01:05:25] at lpavs

[01:05:26] with two s's

[01:05:28] um i'm not

[01:05:29] really like i

[01:05:30] feel like i'm

[01:05:30] using blue sky

[01:05:31] but i'm not

[01:05:32] using it like i

[01:05:33] feel like i've

[01:05:33] kind of made

[01:05:35] my twitter like

[01:05:36] the sports

[01:05:37] vibe and then

[01:05:39] it's just kind

[01:05:40] of naturally

[01:05:40] done that

[01:05:41] because like

[01:05:42] they've stayed

[01:05:43] over there

[01:05:43] and then the

[01:05:44] reality people

[01:05:45] have kind of

[01:05:45] went to blue sky

[01:05:46] so that's kind

[01:05:47] of what i'm

[01:05:48] doing right now

[01:05:48] but yeah

[01:05:49] follow me on

[01:05:50] both and

[01:05:51] instagram as

[01:05:52] well

[01:05:53] yes and

[01:05:54] follow follow

[01:05:55] her everywhere

[01:05:55] okay

[01:05:56] um if you

[01:05:58] want to hear

[01:05:58] more from me

[01:05:59] you can follow

[01:05:59] me everywhere

[01:06:00] at kirsten

[01:06:00] said what

[01:06:01] that includes

[01:06:01] blue sky

[01:06:02] as well

[01:06:03] i've been

[01:06:03] trying to

[01:06:03] just like

[01:06:03] not use

[01:06:04] twitter

[01:06:04] and i've

[01:06:05] not been

[01:06:05] using it

[01:06:06] very much

[01:06:06] which i've

[01:06:07] been enjoying

[01:06:09] um i also

[01:06:10] was on the

[01:06:11] we know 90

[01:06:12] day fiance podcast

[01:06:14] this week with

[01:06:14] puya talking

[01:06:15] about episode

[01:06:16] 14 of the

[01:06:16] current season

[01:06:17] of 90 day

[01:06:17] fiance uh

[01:06:18] before the 90

[01:06:19] days uh

[01:06:21] which if you

[01:06:22] know me you

[01:06:22] know i'm first

[01:06:23] and foremost a

[01:06:23] hater and it's

[01:06:24] a great show

[01:06:25] to watch if you

[01:06:25] are a hater

[01:06:27] uh and if

[01:06:28] you want to

[01:06:28] hear more from

[01:06:28] sasha she of

[01:06:29] course has tv

[01:06:30] for real um

[01:06:34] she and like

[01:06:35] a million other

[01:06:35] pods i don't even

[01:06:36] know what else

[01:06:36] she's doing right

[01:06:37] now but sasha

[01:06:37] has a million

[01:06:37] pods follow her

[01:06:39] everywhere dancing

[01:06:40] with the stars

[01:06:40] just wrapped up

[01:06:42] um oh she's

[01:06:43] talking about sex

[01:06:44] lives with college

[01:06:44] girls with chapelle

[01:06:46] she's doing everything

[01:06:47] you can follow her

[01:06:48] most places at

[01:06:49] funsize underscore

[01:06:49] 04 and then on

[01:06:51] blue sky at

[01:06:55] we'll be back

[01:06:56] next week with

[01:06:57] more mess

[01:06:58] magnets thank

[01:06:59] you so much

[01:07:00] everyone for

[01:07:01] listening remember

[01:07:02] to submit your

[01:07:03] anonymous and to

[01:07:05] nominate people

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[01:07:10] and we'll see you

[01:07:11] next time bye

[01:07:12] you

[01:07:12] you