Mess Magnets: Messtha Stewart

[00:00:17] Hi, I'm Kirsten and this is Mess Magnet. We're back baby, two in a row. Look at us go. Or is it three? I don't even know. Who knows? Honestly, we're making it. You're making it. And that is it, y'all. We're still here. We're still alive. And there is still plenty of mess in the world for us to talk about.

[00:00:40] The thing is, we're here. We've made it. And if you're struggling like me, I just feel like that's okay. You know, and we're going to breathe through it.

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[00:01:09] I'm such a loser. Anyways, Mess Magnets, we're back. We wanted to record a few days ago, but literally there was no fun pop culture mess. And now I feel like we have like a decent amount to talk about.

[00:01:20] Yeah, good enough. We'll be, we'll make it through.

[00:01:23] We'll see. It'll sign on. It'll fill in our time sheet and we'll submit it.

[00:01:29] Oh my gosh. Oh, messengers. We're going to make it through.

[00:01:33] Yes. Okay. Let's just, let's just get into the mess. It's a, nobody wants to hear us be like up top. It's fine.

[00:01:42] No, and you don't deserve it. We don't deserve it. So let's move.

[00:01:46] One thing that could make us all feel so much better is a five star rating and review on Mess Magnets on your podcatcher of choice.

[00:01:56] Oh man.

[00:01:57] Just something to consider.

[00:01:59] Okay. Let's, let's get into the mess. So, Sasha, are you like a country music early or no?

[00:02:05] No. I did go to Nalcorma, but no.

[00:02:09] Yeah. I'm not really either. And now I need to check to make sure this is even country music related. Yes, it is. Okay.

[00:02:16] Yes. I do know that his name.

[00:02:20] I know, but there's, isn't there like another person with the last name, like Bryant?

[00:02:24] Luke Bryant.

[00:02:25] Luke Bryant.

[00:02:25] Got it. Okay. You're more of a country music early than me.

[00:02:28] Meanwhile, I lived in Alberta for 10 years.

[00:02:30] I did just go to Nashville.

[00:02:31] Look at you.

[00:02:32] For a bachelor at party. Just kidding. When was that?

[00:02:34] That was months, literally months ago.

[00:02:36] Oh.

[00:02:36] Maybe like three months ago.

[00:02:39] No, I feel like it was years ago.

[00:02:41] In the summer.

[00:02:42] Yeah. Summer. You right.

[00:02:45] Okay.

[00:02:46] Anyways.

[00:02:48] It doesn't matter.

[00:02:49] So Zach Bryan was dating.

[00:02:51] Um, people know her as Brianna Chicken Fry from Barstool, but her real last name is Lapeglia.

[00:02:57] I don't know why they call her Chicken Fry.

[00:02:59] If you work for Barstool, does it matter?

[00:03:03] Exactly.

[00:03:04] Like kick off.

[00:03:05] Anyways.

[00:03:06] Anyways, they were dating and now they are broken up and it's complicated and everybody

[00:03:11] is talking about it.

[00:03:13] Um, it appears that this was not an amicable breakup.

[00:03:18] No.

[00:03:18] And like, he has been posting like one-sided things on social media.

[00:03:27] It looks like maybe he wouldn't post her to his social media.

[00:03:31] Um, like she wrote an article about that.

[00:03:34] Like, oh, my boyfriend won't post me.

[00:03:36] What do I do?

[00:03:37] Uh, there's maybe new music.

[00:03:40] Anyways, there's just a lot.

[00:03:42] So you hiding her from the world or, you know, where you're hiding the world for anyway.

[00:03:46] So who could know it's never a good sign.

[00:03:48] So there had been speculation that they broke up.

[00:03:52] But at the end of October, uh, Zach took to his Instagram stories to confirm it saying,

[00:03:58] Brianna and me have broken up with each other.

[00:04:01] And I respect and love her with every ounce of my heart.

[00:04:03] She's loved me unconditionally for a very long time.

[00:04:05] And for that, I'll always thank her.

[00:04:07] Um, I've had a hard year personally and struggled through severe things.

[00:04:10] I thought it'd be beneficial for us to go different ways.

[00:04:12] I'm not perfect.

[00:04:13] Please respect Brianna's privacy in space and mine too.

[00:04:17] Um, but then Brianna hopped on her own Instagram stories and said, hey guys, I'm feeling really

[00:04:24] blindsided right now.

[00:04:25] Gonna hop off social media for a while and attempt to heal privately.

[00:04:28] When I'm ready, I'll be back and ready to talk.

[00:04:30] I love you guys so much.

[00:04:31] Thanks for your kind words.

[00:04:34] The thing is, when will men stop blindsiding women when it comes to breakups?

[00:04:41] No, literally the audacity.

[00:04:43] I saw a thing recently that was like the day before my situationship ghosted me.

[00:04:49] And it's a guy being like, we should bake cookies this weekend.

[00:04:52] Let's go on a trip.

[00:04:54] Like, I don't want to say the L word, but I think I'm falling in love with you.

[00:04:58] And then it's like, you never hear from them again.

[00:05:00] So, okay.

[00:05:02] So Brianna posted a YouTube video and she's like sitting on the floor in her bathroom,

[00:05:06] which like girl literally stand up, please.

[00:05:08] That's not a place to sit down.

[00:05:10] Um, and she says she woke up to Zach posting on his Instagram story that they broke up.

[00:05:14] She had no idea the post was going up.

[00:05:16] He didn't text her.

[00:05:17] It didn't call her.

[00:05:18] Um, she just woke up to a bunch of different texts asking if she's okay.

[00:05:24] Oh, so she said they broke.

[00:05:27] So they did break up on the 21st, but he posted it on the 22nd without them agreeing that they were going to post about it.

[00:05:36] Like she thought they were going to get to grieve.

[00:05:40] Oh my gosh.

[00:05:45] I just, I know I shouldn't laugh.

[00:05:48] But I need women to stop posting else.

[00:05:54] No, but Kate, that, that would have been like a quick mat, a quick bite if we'd put it in like, right when it happened.

[00:06:01] Right. But however, there have been more developments, um, as of November 7th, uh, this year.

[00:06:08] Um, Brianna went on the Barstool Sports BFFs pod, um, and gave a little bit more of an inside look into the relationship.

[00:06:16] She claimed that Zach was abusive, um, which is very troubling.

[00:06:22] But the worst, the most interesting part is he allegedly offered her a $12 million payment to sign an NDA to not talk about the relationship.

[00:06:33] And she refused to sign the NDA and take the money.

[00:06:37] What are we doing?

[00:06:39] Why?

[00:06:40] I'm sorry.

[00:06:42] What, where do you stand on this first?

[00:06:45] I, okay.

[00:06:48] If someone offered me $12 million, should I talk about it right now?

[00:06:53] I mean, I'm in the financial situation.

[00:06:55] I think I'd have to take it.

[00:06:57] Oh, there.

[00:06:57] Okay.

[00:06:58] I would take it.

[00:07:00] What?

[00:07:01] Negotiate 15.

[00:07:03] Nice round number.

[00:07:05] Um, but like, if you were just like a, through an emotionally abusive relationship and you have a platform to shine a light on that, I would also kind of want to shine the light on that so that no one else.

[00:07:19] Like if I took the payment and then another girl got like it worse than me, I don't know if I could live with myself.

[00:07:29] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:07:30] You know, like it's a tough situation.

[00:07:32] But I feel also just this is like my, um, pessimistic, not pessimistic, my like view on the world.

[00:07:43] Right. Like a lot of women sometimes don't believe other women anyway.

[00:07:47] That's right.

[00:07:48] So it and it's easy.

[00:07:51] The thing is for me personally, if a guy was like my ex is crazy, that's a red flag about him.

[00:07:58] But unfortunately, not everyone would see it that way.

[00:08:03] So that is very true.

[00:08:05] Oh, that's where I would say where sure I want to be a girl's girls.

[00:08:09] But does she want to be a girl's girl?

[00:08:11] Because it's support women, but you know, not the dumb bitches.

[00:08:16] You're not wrong.

[00:08:17] You're not wrong about that.

[00:08:19] But basically, she said that she declined the NDA because she didn't want to sign away her experiences and what she went through to protect someone that hurt her.

[00:08:28] And that she wants to share this experience for other women who have suffered.

[00:08:31] Um, and you know, when it comes to the logistics of losing out on dating a famous person and possibly $12 million, she said it was never about money.

[00:08:42] I was with the dude because I loved him.

[00:08:45] So that's what she said.

[00:08:47] But wait, there's more.

[00:08:49] Okay. Okay.

[00:08:50] So on November 8th, um, Zach Bryan quit his tour amid these abuse allegations.

[00:08:59] He posted on Instagram that his new single is out today, but that he's ending his tour early.

[00:09:05] He said, so after not being home for a year and a half, I drove out to my mother's gravestone in the dead of the night a few days back on familiar Oklahoma roads.

[00:09:14] And I came to realize, just like in the past, that she would never call me again.

[00:09:19] I told her I quit touring because I got accepted to get my master's in Paris next year.

[00:09:24] I told her I was back in Oklahoma.

[00:09:25] I told her blah, blah, blah.

[00:09:27] Um, I wrote the course for this song a month or two back and I finished it when I realized I was blessed with all these things.

[00:09:33] I figured it's time to release it.

[00:09:35] Uh, what's happening?

[00:09:37] Whatever.

[00:09:38] So he's like, oh, I, I'm sorry.

[00:09:43] You don't quit your tour early because of like a graduate degree, like with such like last minute notice.

[00:09:52] Megan, Meg the Sally and did a whole college thing.

[00:09:57] Wow.

[00:09:58] She what, what y'all talking?

[00:10:00] Uh, it wasn't graduate, but still.

[00:10:03] Sure.

[00:10:03] But it's also like, what do you mean you went to your mom's grave and had all these are like, why?

[00:10:10] Right.

[00:10:10] He just wants people to feel bad that he has a dead mom.

[00:10:13] So they won't.

[00:10:14] Of course.

[00:10:15] Like get mad at him for possibly emotionally.

[00:10:17] I think someone did this just happen on Twitter too, where someone like called this guy out for being like just terrible.

[00:10:25] And he goes, well, my mom.

[00:10:29] Uh, I wouldn't be like a terrible blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever you want to say.

[00:10:33] Like he was like, and my mom died a really bad.

[00:10:36] And we're like, okay, that sucks for your mom.

[00:10:39] But you still are terrible.

[00:10:40] Well, I mean, listen, my mom is dead.

[00:10:45] Yes.

[00:10:45] And yet I am not out here emotionally abusing the people in my life and using it as an excuse if I ever do the wrong thing.

[00:10:55] So I just think bad things happen to people and you actually have to like learn how to cope with them and not use them as a crutch to excuse bad behavior.

[00:11:06] And I don't think that that sounds unempathetic.

[00:11:09] Nope.

[00:11:09] I think your trauma is trauma, of course.

[00:11:13] And it's terrible and no one deserves trauma.

[00:11:17] So that's why you shouldn't put it on that other people either.

[00:11:21] Yeah, it's not.

[00:11:22] It's literally in the book.

[00:11:24] Perks of being a wallflower quite literally like explicitly stated like bad things happen to you.

[00:11:29] That's not an excuse to take them out on all the people around you.

[00:11:32] Period.

[00:11:34] It's just the way it is.

[00:11:35] But yeah, that's what's currently going on.

[00:11:39] Yeah.

[00:11:39] And let us know like if y'all are if y'all know Zach right again, I know chicken fry in that like I've heard like I've seen her bar stool and then I'm always like bar stool run away.

[00:11:51] Yeah.

[00:11:53] But that's yeah, that's it.

[00:11:55] The thing is, this is not the first country.

[00:11:57] He's country right?

[00:11:58] Yeah.

[00:11:58] Not the first country artist to have anything salacious like him come out.

[00:12:04] So like be serious.

[00:12:06] The Morgan Wallen stuff is yeah, that's literally chill you to the bone.

[00:12:11] Mm hmm.

[00:12:12] So it's just they're all like this.

[00:12:15] Yeah.

[00:12:15] So not good, but this is still a developing.

[00:12:19] Not they're all great.

[00:12:19] But you know what I mean?

[00:12:20] They're like a lot of them are just like ridiculous.

[00:12:21] I know you didn't mean every single one.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:24] I knew it.

[00:12:25] But yeah, in case anyone listening is wondering, she didn't mean every single one.

[00:12:29] And the Beyonce is a country artist, so obviously not.

[00:12:32] I'm just kidding.

[00:12:34] Don't hey, don't get the conspiracy theorists going because people are being weird about Beyonce lately.

[00:12:39] I know.

[00:12:41] Oh, my God.

[00:12:45] Should we get into kind of our main our main situation and talk about Martha Stewart?

[00:12:51] Yes, I'm excited for this one.

[00:12:53] Okay.

[00:12:54] So yeah.

[00:12:55] Okay, go ahead.

[00:12:57] I okay.

[00:12:58] Well, so the reason we're talking about this is so Martha Stewart's documentary on Netflix was released this week.

[00:13:05] And I feel like there's been lots of headlines about it and lots to talk about.

[00:13:11] And for a minute, it seemed like this was the only thing that we were going to have to talk about this week.

[00:13:17] Sasha, what is your like personal experience with Martha Stewart?

[00:13:20] Yes.

[00:13:21] So I know Martha Stewart.

[00:13:23] Or again, I don't know if this is like because I grew up in Oklahoma or whatever, but like she like her stuff was huge when I was growing up.

[00:13:34] Like I remember, even though my family was nowhere right like close to even eating the same foods she was cooking.

[00:13:44] It was this idea of like, oh, there's a way to like for a modern woman almost to still, you know, learn how to like have a house and keep the house.

[00:13:54] And for me personally, that's interesting.

[00:13:57] Like that's not a lifestyle I have chosen, but I still find that stuff really interesting that like, oh, yeah, gardening could be really cool.

[00:14:03] And, you know, I love hosting like that is my jam.

[00:14:08] So imagine at that time actually having someone that's like, hey, here's how you host.

[00:14:14] Love that for us. I love it.

[00:14:17] So I, Kate, I like saw the Martha Stewart magazines at the grocery store, but like we didn't watch anything Martha Stewart in my house.

[00:14:28] Like we didn't really consume anything.

[00:14:29] I think so like my whole familiarity with Martha Stewart is literally like seeing her face and then her going to jail.

[00:14:37] And then she's friends with Snoop Dogg now.

[00:14:39] That's like all that I knew going into this.

[00:14:42] Yeah, I remember her magazines came to my house.

[00:14:46] Okay.

[00:14:47] Yeah.

[00:14:49] Yeah.

[00:14:49] Um, so it's just, it's interesting.

[00:14:52] And like I said, I just think something about her appeals to me.

[00:14:58] I don't know why.

[00:15:01] And I couldn't tell you why either.

[00:15:03] But I just, I just think like maybe and maybe it's just the hosting thing.

[00:15:07] But I find a woman that can like do it all to be interesting.

[00:15:11] And like, and she went to jail in like 2004.

[00:15:14] So before I moved to this country, that's why it's even funnier.

[00:15:19] Because it's like after she was on her Renaissance.

[00:15:23] Oh, she was on her redemption tour.

[00:15:25] Yeah.

[00:15:25] That's when you know, when she was doing her Mark Burnett show that she said was worse than prison in the document.

[00:15:31] Which listen fair.

[00:15:33] And I'm excited to talk through it because I don't know how I feel.

[00:15:38] Listen, Mark Burnett, right?

[00:15:39] Survivor TV producer.

[00:15:41] So I'm just like, he likes trapping people.

[00:15:44] Well, I'm thinking.

[00:15:45] Survivor, the apprentice.

[00:15:48] Yup.

[00:15:49] I mean, there's some complicated ethics involved with all of that for sure.

[00:15:56] Shark Tank too.

[00:15:56] Oh my God.

[00:15:58] And Dragonstone.

[00:15:59] I'm pretty sure.

[00:16:00] Are you smarter?

[00:16:01] What?

[00:16:02] Are you smarter than a fifth grader?

[00:16:04] I hope that I am not charter than a fifth grader.

[00:16:08] I was looking at Shark Tank.

[00:16:11] Okay.

[00:16:12] Okay.

[00:16:12] So the Netflix came out.

[00:16:14] It's just like a movie documentary.

[00:16:17] Yes.

[00:16:17] It's not like multiple episodes.

[00:16:19] It was almost two hours long though.

[00:16:20] It was long.

[00:16:22] Yeah.

[00:16:22] And I did fall asleep last night watching it.

[00:16:25] I didn't fall asleep.

[00:16:26] So that's okay.

[00:16:27] We can get into all of it.

[00:16:28] No, no.

[00:16:28] I watched it all.

[00:16:30] Don't worry.

[00:16:30] I just had to rewatch it this morning.

[00:16:32] Oh no.

[00:16:33] Okay.

[00:16:33] So basically we like you get very little of kind of her early life.

[00:16:40] And then like a lot of her building the business empire.

[00:16:42] And then a lot, a lot, a lot about her time in prison.

[00:16:47] I had no idea that Martha Stewart was a model or that Martha Stewart was hot because I just

[00:16:55] like, I feel like she's looked the same my whole life.

[00:16:58] Fair, fair.

[00:16:58] And I just did.

[00:16:59] And like, not that she's like, not like hot for an older person at all.

[00:17:03] Like not to say anything like that.

[00:17:05] If you're 83, damn girl.

[00:17:06] Damn.

[00:17:07] I pray.

[00:17:08] Literally I pray.

[00:17:08] But like, when she was modeling, I was like, damn.

[00:17:12] Okay.

[00:17:13] Martha.

[00:17:14] No, no, no.

[00:17:15] I'm with you.

[00:17:16] And, um, that I didn't know necessarily about her modeling per se like that.

[00:17:22] I feel like I found out through here.

[00:17:25] Um, but what I will say is like, because she was on the swimsuit cover, right?

[00:17:30] Oh, she was on the cover of sports illustrated.

[00:17:33] I think that made such a big deal that like her other stuff came up for me in that way.

[00:17:38] So like, I had this idea that yes, definitely there was something.

[00:17:45] So yeah, for sure.

[00:17:47] Um, I thought it was okay.

[00:17:49] So she's it starts off like talking about her dad and like her dad is the reason why she

[00:17:54] like got into gardening and that kind of thing because they were very poor family.

[00:17:59] He lost his job.

[00:18:00] He needed to care for his children.

[00:18:03] And so he would get them like working in the backyard.

[00:18:06] Like it was a farm basically.

[00:18:07] Father sounds horrible.

[00:18:09] Like it just like a terrible person.

[00:18:12] But at the start, Martha goes.

[00:18:15] Oh, he was the handsomest.

[00:18:19] Um, daddy and he I was his favorite and I was like, that is such a weird thing to say about your.

[00:18:26] Listen, hearing about how she grew up tells you everything you know need to know about why she's the way she is.

[00:18:33] Um, there's a few things and I don't mean I think this is a generational thing because my mom's neighbor in Oklahoma also speaks like this.

[00:18:42] But when you call your mom mother.

[00:18:46] Right.

[00:18:46] And you call like there's just certain tells I feel of a certain generation that you know, maybe you don't have like the the best relationships or the most healthiest way.

[00:19:00] And this isn't a sweeping generalization is just I've definitely met folks in Oklahoma that are very much like my and I know she's in New Jersey.

[00:19:07] I'm just saying of that certain generation.

[00:19:09] I find it to be interesting.

[00:19:12] Um, but either way, it's it's funny because she was only her alcoholic dad's favorite because she took she was like giving him the time of day versus like the other.

[00:19:25] And because she's the only face interview you get the other folks.

[00:19:31] Her brothers are like, hey gardening to this day.

[00:19:35] So I'm like, what trauma is she not telling us that happened?

[00:19:39] Yeah, that I guess is like just a very good point for the whole thing.

[00:19:42] I do not believe that Martha Stewart is a reliable narrator.

[00:19:46] I think that she told us a lot of lies.

[00:19:49] So I will.

[00:19:50] Okay.

[00:19:51] And I knew you'd be on this side and I knew I'd be on the other.

[00:19:54] That's why I thought this is going to be a really fun conversation.

[00:19:57] Um, I she's she's dead ass wrong on a lot of things.

[00:20:02] She's delusional and like it's iconic and I'm not like saying I hate her or anything like that.

[00:20:08] But I just I think she's delusional and I don't and like I don't mean it in a derogatory way.

[00:20:13] It's just crazy because she'll be like yes.

[00:20:16] She'll be like talking about how she cheated on her husband on her honeymoon.

[00:20:20] I'm sorry in the cathedral and she's looking up at the painted ceiling and the music.

[00:20:25] It's so beautiful and emotional.

[00:20:27] And she had this kiss with a stranger and then they're like.

[00:20:32] But was that like cheating?

[00:20:33] So no, it was just like a moment.

[00:20:34] And then when she talks about her husband cheating on her, she's like, that's the worst thing you could do to a person.

[00:20:39] And what a horrible person.

[00:20:41] And if somebody cheats on you, you have to leave them immediately because it's evil.

[00:20:45] And they're like, well, didn't you cheat on him?

[00:20:47] And she's like, what are you talking about?

[00:20:51] When I tell you, I said yes.

[00:20:54] I was like and that's my delusional trait.

[00:20:57] And that's OK.

[00:20:58] I'll own it.

[00:20:59] But whatever.

[00:21:01] But the tea is that I love.

[00:21:05] I just love that she is so hardened by the world and by her trauma.

[00:21:12] Right. Like growing up and other that she just like lives in her reality.

[00:21:18] And that's it.

[00:21:20] And I and I do again, I feel like I know people like this that are so gifted.

[00:21:24] They're so good at what they do that they just cannot fathom how one you are not as good as them at executing their vision that they maybe didn't even tell you about.

[00:21:36] And secondly, why are you not just following me?

[00:21:42] Period.

[00:21:43] Period.

[00:21:44] So it's just there's a version of this like narcissism that I really find fascinating because, listen, for a woman in the 60s, you know, to do all of the shit she did.

[00:21:59] And another toxic shirt I have not to talk like politics, but just older women in Congress.

[00:22:06] Right. Like, yes, they should retire their mess, whatever.

[00:22:10] But can you imagine what all they had to go through to even get into, you know, this like, see, it's dirty.

[00:22:17] It's gross.

[00:22:18] It's messy.

[00:22:19] And that's why I find Martha fascinating.

[00:22:22] Okay, I just pulled up Martha Stewart's astrology sign.

[00:22:31] Yes.

[00:22:31] And this woman is a Leo sun, Sagittarius moon, Scorpio rising.

[00:22:38] Like, no wonder it honestly explains a lot.

[00:22:47] Oh, my gosh, it makes so much sense.

[00:22:50] I'm sorry.

[00:22:51] It really does.

[00:22:52] Yeah.

[00:22:55] Holy smokes.

[00:22:56] Okay, so.

[00:22:59] She obviously worked extremely hard because she had to and she gets a scholarship to Barnard College.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:13] And Columbia now right Columbia Barnard, which is wild.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:17] So like good for her.

[00:23:18] And Barnard used to be though.

[00:23:20] It was like all women at the time.

[00:23:21] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:22] I think.

[00:23:24] And so she was like.

[00:23:27] Also funding her education by doing like the modeling.

[00:23:31] And while she was in school, she met her husband who was attending Yale law and her like classmate was just like, hey, come meet my brother.

[00:23:40] And she talks about it as like I was immediately in love.

[00:23:44] Mm hmm.

[00:23:44] Mm hmm.

[00:23:45] Which I think is how it was in the 60s.

[00:23:47] Honestly.

[00:23:48] But listen, you got to you the hottest chick on campus.

[00:23:53] A man rolls up in a car you never seen.

[00:23:55] Yeah, we're good.

[00:23:57] Yeah.

[00:23:57] And she did what she had to do.

[00:23:59] That part.

[00:23:59] Um, and they went on a five month honeymoon to Europe.

[00:24:06] The thing is, he had money, money.

[00:24:09] OK.

[00:24:09] And it's wild because her dad didn't want her to marry him.

[00:24:14] Uh, so she slapped.

[00:24:17] Um, he slapped her and say you're not marrying a Jew.

[00:24:22] Horrible.

[00:24:23] Why?

[00:24:24] Again, but the way she says it is so normal.

[00:24:27] You can tell.

[00:24:28] She says it just so.

[00:24:29] Not in the head.

[00:24:30] It's not correct.

[00:24:31] She says it so matter of fact.

[00:24:33] She's just like he slapped me across the face.

[00:24:35] And you're like, oh my God.

[00:24:36] Why?

[00:24:37] And then she's like, because he was Jewish.

[00:24:39] And you're like, oh my God.

[00:24:41] Like.

[00:24:41] Yup.

[00:24:43] OK, but she, she went against her father's wishes.

[00:24:46] She married him anyway.

[00:24:47] Mm hmm.

[00:24:48] Which I bet you, Loki, she's like, hmm, shouldn't have done that.

[00:24:52] I don't know.

[00:24:53] No, I'm just kidding.

[00:24:54] She would have had that beautiful moment in Easter weekend.

[00:24:58] That's the thing.

[00:24:58] Has that ever happened to y'all?

[00:25:00] OK.

[00:25:00] Like, Kirsten and everyone listening, like really tweet us at mess my, oh, you blue sky.

[00:25:05] I'm going to put it up to us because I really want to know.

[00:25:10] Legitly that have you ever and because I was trying to rack my brain.

[00:25:15] Have you ever been in a moment?

[00:25:16] Right.

[00:25:17] That's so beautiful.

[00:25:18] That's so moving.

[00:25:21] That you just like.

[00:25:22] Just get taken by your more like and it's like, yeah, I got a man at home that has funded this whole thing.

[00:25:29] But like, I'm going to just get a little kiss in.

[00:25:33] I, I haven't.

[00:25:35] I can't think of any example because I think that like, I don't think that's real.

[00:25:40] Like, I don't think there exists like a moment so beautiful that someone who otherwise wouldn't cheat is going to cheat.

[00:25:51] Yeah, maybe that that's it.

[00:25:53] But it's just it's so funny to me.

[00:25:55] Like I was like, damn, maybe I just don't love hard enough because this is crazy.

[00:26:00] And she's like, no, it means you love hard enough because I know your spouse enough not to do that.

[00:26:06] It's just so funny because she's like, and I hope everyone has that beautiful moment at least once in their life.

[00:26:16] OK, Martha.

[00:26:17] Yeah, this is what I mean when I say she crazy, but she's my crazy, I think.

[00:26:23] Because what? What are you saying, girl?

[00:26:25] Like, literally, what are you talking about?

[00:26:29] And then she does let us know that her husband, who, you know, becomes a really big head of a publishing house,

[00:26:37] like is cheating on her multiple, multiple women like over and over constantly.

[00:26:46] And then she goes and guess what?

[00:26:48] That is his fault.

[00:26:50] He that's his fucking fault.

[00:26:52] He's trash.

[00:26:53] Not you.

[00:26:54] But she goes off.

[00:26:55] And I said, that's it.

[00:26:57] She got me.

[00:26:58] She supports women's rights and wrongs.

[00:27:00] You know what I mean?

[00:27:01] That could literally be just like the headline for the documentary.

[00:27:05] Um, and so they also see like she and her husband, when they got back to the States, they like bought their house in Connecticut.

[00:27:13] And it was like the worst house on the nicest street.

[00:27:17] And then she picked it up.

[00:27:18] Which is still what you're supposed to do, even now.

[00:27:21] Well.

[00:27:23] I wish I had known that.

[00:27:24] No, I'm kidding.

[00:27:25] Well, listen, if you can afford it, of course, but because construction work is not for the weak.

[00:27:32] This is horrible.

[00:27:32] I wouldn't do it, but I'm saying you should.

[00:27:35] And she like, they like, oh, like all this of her like painting and fixing up the house by herself while she's listening to like the Watergate.

[00:27:43] Uh, it was while that was going on.

[00:27:47] And basically, it's just like, she started hosting.

[00:27:51] She started hosting big parties in their home once it was fixed up.

[00:27:54] And she loved it so much.

[00:27:56] And she made everything homemade and she was so good at it.

[00:27:59] And ultimately, she started a catering business to start catering her friends parties because no one else was doing it how Martha was doing it.

[00:28:08] And oh, my God, the photos of all the food and the crudités and the charcuterie boards and like the basket of strawberries.

[00:28:17] I was like, I wanted to like jump through the screen and eat it.

[00:28:21] It looked so good.

[00:28:24] Oh, my God.

[00:28:26] That's what I'm saying.

[00:28:26] Right.

[00:28:26] And I know you're vegetarian, so apologies.

[00:28:29] But that was the turkey that she put in a puff pastry.

[00:28:36] Diabolical behavior.

[00:28:38] No, that's crazy.

[00:28:38] And I would try it.

[00:28:40] You should try it at Thanksgiving.

[00:28:42] I don't know how we go over it with Indians, but here we are.

[00:28:48] No, it's fine.

[00:28:49] We do chicken.

[00:28:50] Maybe I'll do it a chicken.

[00:28:52] But no, can't have butter because it has to be kosher.

[00:28:55] So I think it's going to taste terrible.

[00:28:57] Oh, yeah.

[00:28:58] No, it's no butter because then what?

[00:29:00] You're going to use like vegan butter.

[00:29:01] Yeah.

[00:29:02] Not as not the best.

[00:29:05] Exactly.

[00:29:05] So it just wouldn't work.

[00:29:06] But the point is, that's what I said.

[00:29:11] Martha's my girl and I will ride for her because that's crazy that she did that.

[00:29:16] Yeah, I think that would be like, I don't know, that would be difficult to do.

[00:29:21] Right.

[00:29:21] I think it would be difficult to do.

[00:29:23] Um, that's I'm like obsessed with watching that like teamy girl on TikTok that her cooking

[00:29:31] videos are on Next Level Chef.

[00:29:33] That's how I know her.

[00:29:35] The Gordon Ramsay show.

[00:29:36] Yes.

[00:29:36] And she was, yeah, the TikTok star queen.

[00:29:40] I love you on there, too.

[00:29:42] I love watching her cook.

[00:29:43] She never cooks a single thing I would ever eat, but I watch every video to the very end.

[00:29:48] And last year she did a bunch of like different turkey, like marinades and rubs and stuff to

[00:29:55] show people different ways to do their turkeys.

[00:29:56] And she like injects melted butter under the skin of the turkey before she cooks it.

[00:30:02] And like, I was like, I was like, wow, am I like not a vegetarian anymore?

[00:30:07] I still am.

[00:30:08] But like just something about watching her inject that butter into the turkey.

[00:30:11] It just did something for me.

[00:30:13] Same with me where I don't like seafood and I keep kosher so I can't eat like shrimp and

[00:30:20] lobster.

[00:30:20] But the videos of them like frying shrimp is fascinating to me.

[00:30:26] Yeah.

[00:30:26] And that's why I love watching these little cooking shows.

[00:30:30] OK, Gordon Ramsay.

[00:30:31] If it's a Gordon Ramsay show, baby, I'm in.

[00:30:34] I mean, if they're cooking on TV, I'm in.

[00:30:36] Correct.

[00:30:36] It doesn't take a lot for me.

[00:30:39] So, yeah, it's just it's really interesting because then you see like how she kind of goes

[00:30:44] into right like this transition of catering and building a business.

[00:30:50] But before that, she was a stockbroker.

[00:30:55] And she was the again, the only woman, of course, doing all of this work until unfortunately,

[00:31:02] she lost like the her people a lot of money and, you know, cause a lot of grief, whatever.

[00:31:10] And that's why she's moving to the suburbs.

[00:31:13] Well, yeah, cause again, like what?

[00:31:14] She got this job as a stockbroker with like no experience or information.

[00:31:19] Like, of course it didn't go well.

[00:31:21] And that's.

[00:31:22] Cause that's, that's the other thing too.

[00:31:24] Like, yes.

[00:31:24] This whole documentary portrays Martha Stewart as like, she's the best.

[00:31:29] She's the best at everything.

[00:31:30] She succeeds at everything she does.

[00:31:32] And it's because she simply works harder.

[00:31:33] And it's like, no, she had the, from the minute she met her husband.

[00:31:40] Yeah.

[00:31:40] She had the resources and contacts to succeed.

[00:31:44] Like you think her magazine would have been immediately published by Condé Nast

[00:31:48] without her husband's connect, like stop it.

[00:31:51] Like she's like, I decided I had a dream of a magazine.

[00:31:54] So I marched into the offices at Condé Nast.

[00:31:57] And it's like, you are living in a different world of resource and opportunity than everybody else.

[00:32:06] Million per cent.

[00:32:08] Okay.

[00:32:09] Not what.

[00:32:09] What do you mean?

[00:32:10] And Condé Nast ratchet ass.

[00:32:12] We know all the drama that they've had and how they don't pay their talent.

[00:32:18] Especially the people of color.

[00:32:20] Just shut up.

[00:32:21] But Claire Saffetz and Priya Krishnan and you know, Sophia, all of them.

[00:32:28] They did not leave Bon Appetit for this shit to just be normal here.

[00:32:33] Okay.

[00:32:34] Um, shut up.

[00:32:35] But, but this is what I mean when I say like the delusion is fascinating.

[00:32:39] And this is why I do think I could be a cult leader because I don't care.

[00:32:46] I just find it fascinating and I would want to try that kind of influence over people.

[00:32:52] See that.

[00:32:53] I know.

[00:32:54] I don't know.

[00:32:55] And I will let you all go.

[00:32:56] Don't worry.

[00:32:57] I wouldn't kill anyone.

[00:32:58] Oh my God.

[00:32:59] Yeah.

[00:33:00] But I'm just saying I would want to try for a few days.

[00:33:05] Just a few days.

[00:33:06] Okay.

[00:33:06] Well, it's great.

[00:33:08] You know, it's just in my mind can't fathom this kind of just like door opening.

[00:33:12] Um, you know, you name it, right?

[00:33:15] Like this kind of just.

[00:33:16] Yeah.

[00:33:16] Amazing.

[00:33:17] I don't know.

[00:33:18] Like whose life is this?

[00:33:20] I don't want to say easy.

[00:33:21] This is doors open easily.

[00:33:24] That's what I mean.

[00:33:25] Yeah.

[00:33:25] Like you just like to have more doors than other people have.

[00:33:30] And then I feel like it's so normal though that when people do achieve great success.

[00:33:37] Um, through like hard work, but also like getting a step up from other people.

[00:33:43] It's always like, well, I just work hard and nobody else wants to nobody wants to work anymore.

[00:33:49] And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:33:51] And it's like, can we just be real for a moment of like the material circumstances that most people are living under?

[00:33:59] No, and it's so I'm telling you, it's just so funny when they're like, so, um, you, your husband, you're saying your husband cheated on you with the woman you moved into your house.

[00:34:12] Uh, but did you cheat first?

[00:34:15] And she's like, that was a beautiful Irish man.

[00:34:19] Um, and I, it was just a moment.

[00:34:22] Okay.

[00:34:22] Not everyone can have a moment like that.

[00:34:26] I just, yo, I'm sorry.

[00:34:28] It's just, she's so toxic.

[00:34:30] It's hilarious.

[00:34:31] And I wish more women were like this.

[00:34:34] That's all I'll say.

[00:34:35] Not to like nice men.

[00:34:37] How about that?

[00:34:38] But like, I wish more women were like this and they were cast on below deck.

[00:34:42] Yeah.

[00:34:43] Yes.

[00:34:43] And love Island.

[00:34:45] Oh, correct.

[00:34:47] Okay.

[00:34:47] But love Island.

[00:34:48] I feel like at least sometimes they'll give the men the comeuppance, but never on below deck.

[00:34:53] They're always losing.

[00:34:55] Um, yeah.

[00:34:57] So then, um, of course, all her stuff goes, you know, amazing.

[00:35:02] She ends up taking a Martha's living, Martha Stewart living, sorry, public right in the nineties and stuff happens.

[00:35:12] Um, and, and then.

[00:35:15] And of course, one thing about that stock market, it's grew with her before she started her catering company lifestyle magazine life.

[00:35:25] And it's going to screw her after.

[00:35:28] Because that's a tip allegedly right from this.

[00:35:33] This is what is so confusing.

[00:35:35] This is what is so confusing.

[00:35:35] Okay.

[00:35:35] So I had always been under the living under the, you know, theory.

[00:35:42] Like I thought that she had been convicted for insider trading, which is not the case.

[00:35:46] That's not what she was convicted of.

[00:35:49] However, when Martha tells the story, she literally tells the story of getting a call from a friend that they are selling their stocks and then a call from her broker that they're selling it.

[00:35:58] And she says, okay.

[00:36:00] But then the rest of the documentary is literally like there was no reason to have any charges against her.

[00:36:07] And she was just a scapegoat for the, like the stock market at large.

[00:36:11] And somebody needed to get convicted to like chose Martha and like she didn't do insider trading.

[00:36:17] She got convicted of obstruction of justice.

[00:36:19] And it's like, but what was she obstructing?

[00:36:24] What, what do you mean?

[00:36:25] Like what justice was she obstructing?

[00:36:27] What was she lying about?

[00:36:28] And then you get the people being like, well, she never got a call and she never got a tip.

[00:36:33] And it's like, I just heard with my own ears, her say she got a tip.

[00:36:40] I honestly free my girl, Martha.

[00:36:44] But it's just like, and like, I'd like, if anyone was going to go to jail for this, I don't think it should have been her TBH.

[00:36:49] Like it seems like she was a bit of a scapegoat in a way that is like not correct.

[00:36:56] However, this is where I'm like, no, she's straight up lying because then in her trial, her like supposed best friend who she was traveling with when all this happened.

[00:37:07] Literally was able to testify and say she got this call.

[00:37:12] She did this.

[00:37:13] And then she said, isn't it great to have advisors who tell you about these kinds of things?

[00:37:17] And it's like, who's making that up?

[00:37:21] And Martha acts like her friend is like the devil.

[00:37:24] And like, I don't think I would have testified against you in these circumstances, Sasha, but like.

[00:37:33] I don't know.

[00:37:34] What if I was really mean to you?

[00:37:36] Yeah, but like if you were really mean and like really smug about everything, maybe I would want to.

[00:37:41] Yeah.

[00:37:42] And that's I think the difference here is that they they paint her and I don't think it's incorrect necessarily.

[00:37:53] Right.

[00:37:54] That woman is a bully.

[00:37:56] I'm sorry.

[00:37:56] He's a bully.

[00:37:58] She's like pretty mean, very much like, hey, things need to go this way.

[00:38:02] Why are you doing it?

[00:38:03] They show video of her right being like, I using a small knife to cut a big or if you're cutting an orange use a big knife.

[00:38:10] Like, come on.

[00:38:12] Like you have to be faster and more efficient.

[00:38:15] Problem is that folks don't know how to deal with a bitchy person.

[00:38:21] That's also not necessarily wrong.

[00:38:24] Yes.

[00:38:25] And that's what it comes down to.

[00:38:29] And and that's how it's presented to us that they really mess up.

[00:38:36] Not mess up like they mess up her image.

[00:38:38] Right.

[00:38:39] And there was this almost like bloodlust of wanting to take her down because she's so quote unquote perfect.

[00:38:45] And oh, her husband left her.

[00:38:48] Oh, her.

[00:38:50] Her business is going down.

[00:38:52] Oh, and now she did insider trading, blah, blah, you know, or tax evaded, whatever you want to call everything.

[00:38:56] Right.

[00:38:57] She just gets boom, boom, boom.

[00:39:00] And it's it's this like excitement of humbling a woman because after she comes out from jail, even the documentary is like, oh, she's changed.

[00:39:11] She's one of us.

[00:39:12] She's not perfect anymore.

[00:39:14] Babe, that's not a good thing.

[00:39:17] No, but also.

[00:39:21] She talks so much about jail and how it's so horrible and she has done not one thing for prison reform after she got out of jail.

[00:39:28] So like, obviously, it didn't matter so much.

[00:39:30] I thought they were going to be like, and now she only employees right blah, blah, blah to work at her.

[00:39:36] Oh, and our estate estate and you know, I don't know whatever.

[00:39:41] Baba, but nah, she just smokes weed with Snoop.

[00:39:46] Like.

[00:39:47] Like she's when I tell you she's a mess, but as a sociologist, I love I think yeah, I love watching it.

[00:39:56] Yeah, it's just she's foolish.

[00:39:58] And of course in jail.

[00:40:01] Also, she got a lot of squat going, which is so funny.

[00:40:05] And I must say in jail, we because we heard from someone that was in jail with her.

[00:40:11] I didn't understand the exact what the voice was saying or doing, but it seems like they were saying, oh, she's like tried to boss us around in jail, but that didn't work.

[00:40:23] And I was like, oh, so it's giving like she finally met her peers in personality.

[00:40:30] Based on everything I know about Martha Stewart, I'm pretty sure she could have run prison like the Navy.

[00:40:35] She probably exactly.

[00:40:38] And she probably did because at one point Jesus.

[00:40:40] Oh, and it was my time to clean it to tidy up the bathroom.

[00:40:45] Who talks about jail bathrooms like well, but this is also like she was in like the lowest security jail period.

[00:40:55] Yeah, she talks about like a walking home and seeing the guards and complimenting their outfit.

[00:41:02] And then she like realized they were guards.

[00:41:04] So she like brushed her hand against the like chain that they were wearing.

[00:41:07] And then is shocked that she was put into solitary confinement for doing that.

[00:41:14] And it's like, OK, so you like you you have no concept of no jail at zero zero.

[00:41:25] Remember, Barbara Walters already asked her, are you ready to get stripped, sir?

[00:41:30] She's like, what? That doesn't happen in minimum.

[00:41:34] It's like the movie Get Hard.

[00:41:37] Have you ever seen it with Will Ferrell and Kevin?

[00:41:42] That movie is just like.

[00:41:45] I didn't think we'd be talking about the movie Get Hard today, I've got to admit.

[00:41:50] It's a movie that has its moments.

[00:41:52] And it's stupid and it's based in every stereotype you can think of.

[00:41:58] But that's what it reminded me of.

[00:42:00] Like, did Martha hire like a random because, you know, there's no people of color anywhere in these pictures.

[00:42:06] No.

[00:42:06] In the documentary.

[00:42:08] Nothing. Right.

[00:42:09] So I wonder if she hired someone to be like, teach me.

[00:42:13] I don't think she did because she seemed very surprised by it in the like journal entries that they had her like narrate.

[00:42:24] And so I've seen online, I guess Martha was like really not impressed with how much the documentary focused on her jail time.

[00:42:30] Yes.

[00:42:31] She thought it was going to focus on like other stuff more.

[00:42:34] Which is funny.

[00:42:35] And it was a large focus on the jail time.

[00:42:36] I think it didn't even.

[00:42:39] It wasn't even that much.

[00:42:42] I was like, you know, tell me more, but I guess it's only 150 days.

[00:42:46] I in my mind thought it was way more.

[00:42:48] Yeah, I thought it was more as well.

[00:42:51] I had false memories of the time as I was, of course, 10.

[00:42:56] I guess I was 12 when she went to jail.

[00:42:58] I was 10 when it all started.

[00:43:00] I was in India.

[00:43:01] So it really was possible.

[00:43:02] You were on a different continent.

[00:43:03] Yep.

[00:43:06] Oh, my God.

[00:43:07] It's just it's wild.

[00:43:08] And so then it's like her out of jail and it's like, OK, she is.

[00:43:12] She's changed now.

[00:43:14] I don't think.

[00:43:16] There's any evidence that she is.

[00:43:20] No.

[00:43:22] And the fact that she like get famous because she was at Justin Bieber's roast.

[00:43:28] I remember watching that roast because I was like, oh, I don't like Justin Bieber.

[00:43:33] I'm going to watch.

[00:43:34] I see.

[00:43:35] I don't think I've ever watched a celebrity roast.

[00:43:38] Oh, that's fat.

[00:43:39] I unfortunately this is where I say like my algorithm is teenage boy because I do like

[00:43:47] enjoy the roast.

[00:43:48] I think there's so silly.

[00:43:50] I love when women do the roasting.

[00:43:53] So there is some like weird feminist thing in here, but I don't like like the men I find

[00:43:59] to be crass and I'm like, you're just making stupid sex jokes.

[00:44:02] Cute.

[00:44:02] Stupid.

[00:44:03] Dumb.

[00:44:03] But then women will roast and you're like, that's funny.

[00:44:06] I like that.

[00:44:08] Yeah.

[00:44:08] And she went in.

[00:44:10] Mm hmm.

[00:44:12] Like I was, I was shocked and appalled by some of the things she said.

[00:44:17] And the thing is, stop roasting your staff and start going on roasts.

[00:44:24] How about make a new roast turkey?

[00:44:28] Well, that grift seems to have passed because of the show Mark Burnett made her do.

[00:44:34] Yeah.

[00:44:34] And she said that was the other thing, too, where she like act like prison was so horrible.

[00:44:39] And then she was like doing that show was actually worse than like more like being in

[00:44:43] prison than actual prison was.

[00:44:45] And it's like, OK, ma'am, you were just crying about being in solitary confinement for

[00:44:50] 24 hours.

[00:44:51] And now you're trying to tell me that like riding a horse inside was worse.

[00:44:56] I I'm sorry.

[00:44:58] Well, yeah, it's just I think there was like a certain level, like I said, of like,

[00:45:03] NARS.

[00:45:04] I don't know what the right word is, right?

[00:45:05] Like narcissism or I'm not going to diagnose.

[00:45:08] Sorry, that's rude.

[00:45:09] But there's a certain level of something that she has that just can't.

[00:45:12] Yeah, it's her Leo son and her Scorpio rising.

[00:45:16] She wants to be in charge and in front.

[00:45:19] And yeah, OK, that.

[00:45:21] You know, I'm a Leo.

[00:45:23] I'm a Leo in relationships.

[00:45:25] That's your Venus.

[00:45:27] Yes.

[00:45:28] Interesting.

[00:45:29] And to me, that made all the sense because I didn't look that up in a while.

[00:45:33] Oh, I actually find that very interesting because like Leo Venus tends to be more like

[00:45:39] lover girl situation.

[00:45:41] I be.

[00:45:42] Trust me.

[00:45:42] I just don't be sure.

[00:45:43] Trust.

[00:45:44] OK, OK.

[00:45:45] I just don't show.

[00:45:46] That's the thing.

[00:45:47] I don't show it ever because and I do like I feel like the attention on me like Leo's do.

[00:45:54] Interesting.

[00:45:55] I'm a Capra.

[00:45:56] My Venus is in Capricorn.

[00:45:57] It's all business.

[00:45:59] Fascinating.

[00:46:04] Anyway, tell us what your Leo and Venus is when you leave us your five star.

[00:46:08] I mean, what your Venus is my Leo.

[00:46:10] Yeah.

[00:46:11] Oh, my God.

[00:46:11] Look it up.

[00:46:12] Yeah.

[00:46:13] I'd be so that's so fun.

[00:46:15] We could be more more astrology girlies out here.

[00:46:18] We should.

[00:46:19] You know what?

[00:46:20] Send us your astrology.

[00:46:21] Yes.

[00:46:22] Then send your full birth chart to me.

[00:46:25] Then we have Jenny on.

[00:46:26] Oh, my God.

[00:46:27] We should do an astrology themed episode.

[00:46:29] Oh, I love it.

[00:46:30] With Jenny.

[00:46:31] That'd be fun.

[00:46:32] Yeah, obviously.

[00:46:33] Let's do it.

[00:46:34] OK.

[00:46:36] So then and the roses, that's where she met Snoop and they became friends because she

[00:46:41] was just getting high off of his secondhand.

[00:46:45] Oh, God.

[00:46:52] Yes.

[00:46:53] It's just again, it's a man.

[00:46:55] And that's where it ends.

[00:46:55] Like I feel like the ending was very bizarre.

[00:46:58] It was very abrupt.

[00:46:59] Oh, OK.

[00:47:00] We're just going to end with and it was like every day.

[00:47:03] She's on.

[00:47:03] She's on social media.

[00:47:05] She is like for an older person.

[00:47:08] Like has adapted a lot more to social media, which I think is super true.

[00:47:13] Yeah.

[00:47:14] A hundred percent.

[00:47:15] And then it's basically like Martha Stewart.

[00:47:18] She's done it all.

[00:47:19] OK.

[00:47:21] Oh, my God.

[00:47:22] It's just like she.

[00:47:24] Anyway, that was bless our heart.

[00:47:28] Just listen.

[00:47:29] I would watch two more hours of the.

[00:47:33] That's what I'm saying.

[00:47:34] I just I think they should have.

[00:47:35] I don't think it's a bad documentary.

[00:47:37] I think it's just a very random documentary that I was like, so what?

[00:47:41] So weird.

[00:47:42] And again, like she's not happy with the documentary, but she was also like heavily involved in the production of it.

[00:47:49] And I think she.

[00:47:53] Would have never been happy.

[00:47:55] And we know that.

[00:47:57] That's literally the point of this.

[00:47:59] Yeah.

[00:48:01] I love people.

[00:48:03] So, yeah, that's that's the Martha Stewart documentary.

[00:48:08] People also her like ex-husband also has put out a statement after this basically saying that, you know, it's been they their divorce was finalized 34 years ago.

[00:48:18] So he quietly moved forward with his life and it it appears that Martha continues to publicly relitigate the mayor.

[00:48:24] Yes.

[00:48:26] Redate just girl by that.

[00:48:28] I'm like, OK, fair enough.

[00:48:29] I think that's all you really have to say.

[00:48:31] Mm hmm.

[00:48:31] Mm hmm.

[00:48:32] And then there also was like the other big like Martha Stewart news recently is that she said that Ryan Reynolds isn't actually funny in real life, which I believe 100%.

[00:48:41] And now again, now that we saw her in the documentary, it just all checks out for me, Kristen.

[00:48:47] Just the way she's so like unnecessarily callous.

[00:48:51] Yeah.

[00:48:53] She said, oh, you want to know something?

[00:48:54] He's not so funny in real life.

[00:48:56] He's not so funny.

[00:48:56] He's very serious.

[00:48:58] And I was like, oh, you're serious.

[00:49:01] I mean, but if she says he's serious, how serious do you think he is?

[00:49:05] You know, like and and the thing is, unfortunately, he did not help himself because usually I feel like right.

[00:49:11] And this is why conspiracy theory time.

[00:49:14] I believe Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively's like back and forth must be scripted because people love, you know, I know it's so fake.

[00:49:22] I think it's so fake because his retort to Martha Stewart is to her saying he's not funny is she was even.

[00:49:31] I don't understand because yeah, he said I disagree with her, but I tried that once.

[00:49:37] The woman is unexpectedly spry.

[00:49:39] She really closed the gap after the first mile or so.

[00:49:43] Yeah.

[00:49:44] And so, first of all, you're replying to a frickin pop crave tweet right now about you're not funny.

[00:49:50] Loser literally loser behavior like move on.

[00:49:53] And also like this isn't funny.

[00:49:55] I like I genuinely am like, what even is the joke supposed to be?

[00:49:59] Like if you disagree with her, you'd have to run away.

[00:50:01] Like, what do you mean?

[00:50:02] All you should have said was I disagree with her.

[00:50:05] And I tried that once and then make like a cook, you know, some like funny.

[00:50:09] Cooking joke, smoking joke.

[00:50:11] She's you know she smoked me.

[00:50:14] I think that he should have said nothing because acknowledging it is loser behavior.

[00:50:20] Then do funny.

[00:50:24] Like, come on.

[00:50:26] Just ridiculous on.

[00:50:30] Oh, my God.

[00:50:33] Just ridiculous.

[00:50:34] But anyway, I was like you you lost Martha one.

[00:50:37] What's new?

[00:50:38] And Martha stays winning.

[00:50:40] OK.

[00:50:41] All right.

[00:50:41] Period.

[00:50:42] So, yeah, she she's a mess.

[00:50:43] But I think we think she's our mess.

[00:50:46] Yeah, we enjoyed that mess.

[00:50:48] That's what we'll say.

[00:50:49] I don't believe a word she says.

[00:50:51] No.

[00:50:52] And you shouldn't.

[00:50:53] You should just take what it's at the bottom.

[00:50:56] Like, you know what it comes down to is like this is a bitchy badass woman that has had a lot of stuff given to her because she's beautiful and that she's worked on a good amount of stuff.

[00:51:06] And that's OK.

[00:51:08] Period.

[00:51:10] Yeah.

[00:51:11] OK, well, that's Martha Stewart.

[00:51:14] We did it.

[00:51:17] Let know that we would talk about her for so long.

[00:51:20] I'm proud of us.

[00:51:21] Yeah.

[00:51:21] I again, I just thought it was a really interesting one.

[00:51:26] So a documentary, but like silly.

[00:51:28] So let's get into our next thing.

[00:51:32] Grammy noms out, baby.

[00:51:35] They are out.

[00:51:38] Um.

[00:51:40] And of course, Beyonce is leading the pack with 11 nominations.

[00:51:45] Yeah, but I mean, I mean anything.

[00:51:47] No, we'll see.

[00:51:49] It's so stupid.

[00:51:50] Like, I'm never going to get over how mad it made me when you saw like the Grammy ballots last year and people were like, oh, Beyonce wins all the time.

[00:51:58] So she doesn't need to win anymore.

[00:52:00] And then people were like, oh, well, Taylor Swift wins all the time, which shows like she deserves to win more.

[00:52:04] And I was like.

[00:52:05] Come on.

[00:52:06] It's giving America on November.

[00:52:09] Like, can we anyway?

[00:52:11] Like, can we please be so for real?

[00:52:15] No, we can't.

[00:52:16] That's the problem.

[00:52:17] But yeah.

[00:52:18] So big things.

[00:52:19] The Beatles are nominated for the record of the year.

[00:52:23] Uh, Texas Hold'em is nominated, which is that the best Beyonce song for right?

[00:52:29] I mean, she submitted, I guess.

[00:52:30] But I just find that to be interesting.

[00:52:33] I think that it's the one that like the most people know who maybe didn't listen to the whole album.

[00:52:40] Okay, you know what?

[00:52:41] No, not everyone's cracked like me.

[00:52:45] Uh, then not like us.

[00:52:48] I.

[00:52:48] Okay.

[00:52:49] And this is what Kendrick Lamar is.

[00:52:51] Not like us is killing it.

[00:52:54] Obviously, but the fact there's not even an album and it's just a diss track and it's I hope it works.

[00:53:00] I hope it wins a Grammy somewhere.

[00:53:03] It should win for song of the year, not for an album.

[00:53:06] Yeah.

[00:53:07] Not right.

[00:53:08] Like I don't think it's a record.

[00:53:10] I don't think it's an album.

[00:53:11] Like it should just be.

[00:53:12] I think it should win song of the year.

[00:53:14] Like I think.

[00:53:16] Like song of the year, the final nominees are Texas Hold'em by Beyonce.

[00:53:21] Birds of a feather by Billie Eilish.

[00:53:22] Good luck, babe by Chapel Roan.

[00:53:24] Obviously not like us.

[00:53:25] Um, the Lady Gaga Bruno Mars song.

[00:53:28] Please, please, please by Sabrina Carpenter.

[00:53:30] No.

[00:53:31] Um, a bar song.

[00:53:32] Tip it tipsy by Shaboozy and then Fortnite by Taylor Swift.

[00:53:36] And like.

[00:53:39] No, I like the only real like I would understand if Beyonce won, although that's maybe not the song I would want off of the album.

[00:53:47] Um, I'd be okay if Chapel Roan won.

[00:53:53] I'd be okay if Kendrick Lamar won.

[00:53:54] I don't think that's the song that Sabrina Carpenter should have put forward.

[00:53:58] Fair.

[00:53:59] I mean, if it's espresso, then maybe.

[00:54:02] Um, and I like.

[00:54:04] Please, please, please begging for the Grammy.

[00:54:06] I like deeply do not like Billie Eilish's music.

[00:54:09] Like anytime there's a song where I'm like, oh, I think I like this one, then, um, it ultimately turns out to be like four more minutes long and I don't like it anymore.

[00:54:23] Like every time.

[00:54:24] Fair.

[00:54:25] Fair.

[00:54:26] But yeah, it's just, here we are.

[00:54:29] Um, best new artist.

[00:54:31] I think Chapel Roan might get it.

[00:54:33] Or Shaboozy.

[00:54:34] Ooh, that's hard.

[00:54:35] I, I think.

[00:54:37] That's the only ones I know.

[00:54:37] So that's not like a fair comparison.

[00:54:39] Or anything.

[00:54:40] Um, I think Benson Boone has like a lot of attention.

[00:54:44] Got it.

[00:54:45] He performed at the VMAs and it was like, if I was like a teenage girl right now, I'd be very into Benson Boone.

[00:54:52] Um, Sabrina Carpenter being nominated for best new artist is so annoying when she literally has six albums, but she's never been nominated before.

[00:55:00] So she's allowed to put herself in.

[00:55:02] So I could see her winning.

[00:55:04] Um, Teddy swims is like one of the most talented vocalists we've seen in a long time.

[00:55:10] Like he, I, he has, um, his singles called lose control and it's just like beautiful.

[00:55:19] Right.

[00:55:19] Oh my gosh.

[00:55:20] Um, I have heard that song.

[00:55:23] But like I said, just, yeah, I don't know them like that.

[00:55:26] I don't think a win.

[00:55:27] Oh, okay.

[00:55:28] I see what you're saying.

[00:55:29] But like, I think he's really talented.

[00:55:31] I think Sabrina Carpenter is going to win, even though she's not actually new and people are going to be mad.

[00:55:38] People are mad about everything in the world.

[00:55:40] What's new?

[00:55:43] Yeah, that's really interesting.

[00:55:45] Um, best pop solo performance is bodyguard.

[00:55:50] Again, that's my favorite song off the thing.

[00:55:54] So let's see.

[00:55:55] Let's see what's going to happen here.

[00:55:57] Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

[00:56:00] Um, Ariana Grande stands are like, his.

[00:56:03] They don't think she got enough nominations, but like her album is nominated for best pop vocals.

[00:56:08] Yeah.

[00:56:09] And best pop duo, right?

[00:56:10] For the boys, mine.

[00:56:12] Wow.

[00:56:13] Best dance pop recording for yes.

[00:56:15] And.

[00:56:16] Hmm.

[00:56:17] Like she's got a few noms, just not as many as they would like to see her in every category.

[00:56:22] Fair.

[00:56:22] Listen.

[00:56:23] And as, as if you're a stand, that's what you should want.

[00:56:26] So I get it.

[00:56:27] And, um, another was it.

[00:56:31] Yeah.

[00:56:32] Oh, and then Eminem is also nominated.

[00:56:35] So that's really interesting.

[00:56:37] Um, Chris Brown.

[00:56:38] Is nominated, of course, for best R&B.

[00:56:43] Mm hmm.

[00:56:45] I don't understand.

[00:56:46] But I don't listen to this music.

[00:56:47] I don't know if it's good or not.

[00:56:48] And I will never.

[00:56:49] And there's a best R&B performance and best traditional R&B.

[00:56:54] That's interesting.

[00:56:55] The thing is, I need to listen to all of these because I love R&B.

[00:57:00] Um, it's just new R&B doesn't.

[00:57:02] I'm old in that.

[00:57:04] I feel like older R&B feels nicer.

[00:57:07] Um, that's it.

[00:57:09] And yeah, the best rap performance is fascinating because it Cardi B, uh, Common.

[00:57:15] Why?

[00:57:15] I was like Common is still putting out songs.

[00:57:17] I'm just so out of music.

[00:57:19] That and that's on me.

[00:57:20] Yeah.

[00:57:20] Um, Melodic Rap Performance Spaghetti is nominated.

[00:57:25] Great one.

[00:57:26] Great one.

[00:57:27] Yeah, that's a good one.

[00:57:28] And I think if Kendrick could win, um, not like us for best rap song, but let's see.

[00:57:36] Yeah, I could totally see that.

[00:57:39] But, but yeah, Glow is also good.

[00:57:41] So let's.

[00:57:42] I don't know if I know that song.

[00:57:44] Oh, I probably know it, but don't like.

[00:57:46] No, I, you know what I mean?

[00:57:48] Like I've heard it, but it's not like.

[00:57:49] Exactly.

[00:57:50] Playlist.

[00:57:50] I'm surprised.

[00:57:51] Um, TGIF isn't on here, but that's just my song.

[00:57:57] That I play every Friday.

[00:58:01] Okay.

[00:58:02] And I'll be like, I ain't got no man and no man got me and Karthik will just stare at me like that's just a lie.

[00:58:09] And I was like, no, it's just fun to say that.

[00:58:12] I don't.

[00:58:12] That's my sister and I were making friendship bracelets for our upcoming Taylor Swift concert.

[00:58:19] And there's we were just listening to obviously Taylor Swift music and her song Bejeweled has the part where it says like, and like, if they ask if I have a man, I can say I don't remember.

[00:58:32] Yes.

[00:58:32] And my sister was like, I guess, saying that around her husband recently.

[00:58:36] And he's like, did you make that up?

[00:58:37] Like, what?

[00:58:38] That's not true.

[00:58:40] Oh, my God.

[00:58:44] Everyone, it's okay.

[00:58:46] Sometimes we just want to sing our little song.

[00:58:49] It's okay.

[00:58:49] Everyone, it's going to be okay.

[00:58:52] Yeah.

[00:58:52] So it's very funny because that is my and unfortunately, that's my favorite part.

[00:58:57] But the thing is, I'm grateful that these songs did not come out when I was in college.

[00:59:02] Yeah, because it really just you couldn't tell me nothing.

[00:59:07] If this song came out when I was in college.

[00:59:10] I feel like you already couldn't tell you anything.

[00:59:12] Okay, fair.

[00:59:13] But can you imagine being like I ain't got no man?

[00:59:16] No man ain't got me.

[00:59:17] Oh, please.

[00:59:19] Please.

[00:59:21] Fun size would really.

[00:59:23] Oh, my God.

[00:59:24] Their best life.

[00:59:25] That's all I know.

[00:59:27] But anyway.

[00:59:31] Oh, my gosh.

[00:59:32] Oh, my God.

[00:59:34] Would recommend having all the fun you can in college.

[00:59:38] That's all I know.

[00:59:40] That's all I know.

[00:59:40] I do recommend.

[00:59:41] And that's your Grammy nominations, everyone.

[00:59:44] What?

[00:59:44] That's where we're at.

[00:59:46] It's episode.

[00:59:48] Honestly, we did it.

[00:59:50] Yes.

[00:59:52] Should we go in like anonymous?

[00:59:58] Is that where we're going?

[00:59:58] Let's do it.

[00:59:59] Should we do it?

[01:00:00] Okay.

[01:00:01] Um, so this is just a short one.

[01:00:03] It's like I knew the episode would take us to exactly the one hour mark and then we

[01:00:07] could have a short anonymous.

[01:00:08] And so our messenger says, hi, Kristen and Sasha.

[01:00:11] Love you both.

[01:00:12] We love you too, messenger.

[01:00:13] And this is some college sorority mess from about 10 years ago.

[01:00:19] Literally the best mess that there is.

[01:00:21] Got it.

[01:00:21] So our messenger was a junior in college and was in a sorority.

[01:00:26] And her younger sister was going through rush that year.

[01:00:30] Okay, yes.

[01:00:31] And so our messenger is very shocked because her younger sister ended up joining the same sorority as her, even though she had said she didn't want to do anything that our messenger did.

[01:00:40] Hmm.

[01:00:42] Um, in this college in particular, there were no sorority houses.

[01:00:46] There was just a floor on one of the dorm, like buildings, a sorority, um, and just like a big room to have meetings and such.

[01:00:55] And so that's tiny.

[01:00:57] Okay.

[01:00:59] Yes.

[01:00:59] And so the rumors for why that occurred is that apparently the decision to have the floor in the dorm was made when, um, the, because when the college was built, it was considered to have a brothel to have that many girls living in one place.

[01:01:13] And so it had, okay.

[01:01:14] Yes.

[01:01:15] This is, um, a real thing.

[01:01:17] Yeah.

[01:01:17] Cause, um, Oklahoma also had stuff like this.

[01:01:21] Yes.

[01:01:22] So interesting.

[01:01:22] And so, um, since it was our messengers sisters freshman year, you go on quote dates with the pledge class above you to find your, your big sis.

[01:01:34] Yeah.

[01:01:35] Um, and so she went on a few dates and her favorite two were our messengers little who we're going to call a and a friend of our messengers little that we're going to call B.

[01:01:49] Oh no.

[01:01:50] So, so our messenger new B and was a little bit nervous of her getting with like to get big for our messenger sister.

[01:01:59] Yeah.

[01:02:00] Because she didn't show up to some things during rush and some other activities.

[01:02:03] And you just get the sense that she kind of wanted to leave.

[01:02:06] And so our messenger really wanted her be her sisters big.

[01:02:11] Um,

[01:02:12] you want it to be your little, your, sorry, your sister is grand big.

[01:02:16] And that's crazy too.

[01:02:18] Like that's what messy.

[01:02:20] Um, my Dean was my grand big.

[01:02:21] So what do I know?

[01:02:22] Anyway, all of us is so foreign to me.

[01:02:25] I know.

[01:02:25] Um, and so our messenger was told that B had changed her mind.

[01:02:29] She wanted to stay in their sorority and she really wanted our messenger center sister as her little.

[01:02:34] Okay.

[01:02:34] And the thing about B is that her grand big was the president.

[01:02:39] So she got what she wanted and she got matched with our messenger sister.

[01:02:43] Okay.

[01:02:44] Can I say something funny from mine?

[01:02:46] Please.

[01:02:46] I beg my little who I'm very close with now.

[01:02:51] Uh, I have two littles, but I'm very close with both of them.

[01:02:54] But, uh, I was a president of my sorority when I was matched to her.

[01:03:03] And she just like heard stuff about me because I had pledged her friends class.

[01:03:08] So the class before her, um, she just, you know, heard some stuff about me and she says she was so sad.

[01:03:16] And she would literally, um, she was, they were scared of me so much that she wouldn't cancel big little dates when we were, when we were like, when she was pledging, I'd be like, wait, but I'm just the president.

[01:03:30] Like, what's the problem?

[01:03:32] And then later on, she was like, Oh my God, you're actually so cool.

[01:03:34] And I just had heard all this like really scary things about you.

[01:03:40] So I truly understand this like president, big little dynamic.

[01:03:44] Anyway, sorry.

[01:03:45] Okay.

[01:03:45] That's fine.

[01:03:46] And so be matched, um, with our messenger sister and it was good for a few weeks.

[01:03:53] Um, a few weeks later, our messenger goes on a hike with a different Fran, a different friend, and they ran into bees big.

[01:04:03] Okay.

[01:04:04] I guess the president or no, the, not the president.

[01:04:07] That's grand big.

[01:04:09] Oh, grand big.

[01:04:09] So just her.

[01:04:10] Yeah.

[01:04:10] So her big, sorry.

[01:04:12] So they were chatting and this friend says, Oh yeah, I was sad that my little dropped out of our sorority.

[01:04:18] It's going to be mentioned at the next chapter.

[01:04:21] So, oh, hell no.

[01:04:23] See, this is why it's crazy to have, um, big organizations.

[01:04:27] Are mine of 30?

[01:04:29] Everyone knew it.

[01:04:30] What?

[01:04:30] Mm.

[01:04:31] Mm.

[01:04:32] And so our messenger asked, Oh, did B tell you this?

[01:04:35] And the girl says, Oh no, but I found out from my big, the president.

[01:04:39] First of all, loose lips, this president needs to, it's blackout time.

[01:04:45] Cause it's crazy.

[01:04:45] You can't just be telling people's business.

[01:04:47] Yeah.

[01:04:48] And so our messenger figured that this meant that B also didn't tell our messenger sister about it.

[01:04:54] And so she didn't want her little sister to get blindsided at the next chapter.

[01:04:58] Mm.

[01:04:59] So she shortly after got dinner with her little sister, like her biological sister, um, to let her know about her big.

[01:05:10] Mm.

[01:05:10] And B never told her messenger sister.

[01:05:14] And her sister was very upset that she basically got ghosted.

[01:05:20] Well, that's when your grand big just becomes your big.

[01:05:23] Come on, grand big.

[01:05:24] You got to step up.

[01:05:25] The next chapter, it was mentioned that she left and B literally never reached out to our messenger sister ever again.

[01:05:34] And, uh, so after that point in time, our messenger actually ended up doing a lot of the big stuff for her sister and it brought them a lot closer.

[01:05:44] They used to fight a lot in high school, but after this, they got along really well in college and after that and they're like besties.

[01:05:49] Wait, this is like actually crazy to me.

[01:05:53] Why didn't the grand big just take over?

[01:05:55] That's what I'm saying.

[01:05:56] You're sad that you don't have a little.

[01:05:59] So here you go.

[01:06:01] And there's a little who's got no big.

[01:06:03] So how about just like, let's put it together.

[01:06:05] Let's make it work.

[01:06:07] I really hope this never gets out.

[01:06:11] Um, as a messenger is like, don't be snitches.

[01:06:13] This is the tree of trust messenger.

[01:06:17] Um, but my, okay.

[01:06:21] I have a big, like she never quit the sorority or anything, but unfortunately I get along really well with my grand big.

[01:06:30] So, so low key people always thought that my grand big was my big.

[01:06:36] Um, and it like really caused a lot of drama in my life families line because we were like known as the family that was like very close.

[01:06:48] It was very crazy.

[01:06:48] We were called the crazy cocky.

[01:06:50] We were the triple C family, like crazy cocky confident.

[01:06:53] Um, so we like low key just like kind of jumped her.

[01:06:59] I like as in friend jumped, like I friend jumped and just my grand big.

[01:07:03] Um, and we're still friends with to this day.

[01:07:06] And like, I was in Nashville with all these girls and that's my like legit sorority family.

[01:07:12] So it's like wild to where then my big ends up getting another little in Minnesota and like basically doesn't talk to us anymore.

[01:07:22] Wow.

[01:07:23] That's pretty messed up.

[01:07:25] I know it's like sad, but like, we just didn't get along, you know, like it's just personality.

[01:07:29] So like, I always loved her and cared about her as a person and still do.

[01:07:33] Um, it's just unfortunate that me and my grand big just get along better.

[01:07:37] And what's funny is my little, um, one of my littles, uh, who lives in Texas, uh, who just got married.

[01:07:47] I think that one is also really close with my grand big.

[01:07:51] Um, and they like, they did not friend jump me cause I feel like we're, we're close, but they're closer.

[01:07:57] So it's just very funny how that works out and how like, sometimes get friend jumped.

[01:08:03] Oops. Um, especially with sororities, big little drama is crazy.

[01:08:08] I know people that big and little have dated the same guy.

[01:08:14] Not in DP, not in my sorority baby.

[01:08:16] No, we would shame you, but it's definitely happened.

[01:08:21] And it's messy.

[01:08:24] Um, when I was dating guys, I had to be like, so who's your big, like what's going on?

[01:08:29] Um, cause I had to make sure it's not the family.

[01:08:32] Oh my God. Okay.

[01:08:33] I'm sorry. Like I'm never going to understand.

[01:08:37] I know. I know. It's like just messy.

[01:08:39] Like, I don't know. Yeah.

[01:08:40] It's just like weird.

[01:08:40] Cause I definitely got flack from one of my exes.

[01:08:44] Like you can't date my fraternity brother.

[01:08:47] And I was like, first of all, that man don't even count.

[01:08:49] Like you do not give a damn about your organization.

[01:08:53] That man doesn't count.

[01:08:55] No, he did. He did not. He was like, I would laugh and say like,

[01:09:00] it had to be fate that I had to meet this person because he never went to an

[01:09:04] organization event except that one event that we met.

[01:09:08] Wow.

[01:09:08] It's very weird.

[01:09:10] Um, but yeah.

[01:09:12] And I remember my ex being texting me.

[01:09:15] Mind you, we haven't talked in two years.

[01:09:18] And he's like, my fraternity brother, girl, that guy is two years younger than you.

[01:09:24] He don't know you.

[01:09:25] He don't talk to you.

[01:09:26] Shut up.

[01:09:28] That was messy as hell.

[01:09:30] Yeah.

[01:09:31] Oh my God.

[01:09:32] One day I will share my like party story.

[01:09:36] Maybe.

[01:09:37] Yeah.

[01:09:37] Maybe I'll do that for our oops, all anonymous, but I'll just say it's fine.

[01:09:40] It's fine.

[01:09:40] I beg.

[01:09:41] I literally beg.

[01:09:42] It's like juicy and so stupid.

[01:09:47] Okay.

[01:09:48] Yeah.

[01:09:48] So y'all listen, remind me cause it's so dumb.

[01:09:51] And to this day, my friends and I talk about it and laugh.

[01:09:54] So, um, it's like one of our, it's become our like friend lore.

[01:09:57] Oh my God.

[01:09:59] Yeah.

[01:09:59] I want to know.

[01:10:00] Oh my God.

[01:10:01] It's so dumb.

[01:10:02] Yes.

[01:10:03] That's okay.

[01:10:03] We'll see.

[01:10:06] Because yes, we want to do an oops, all anonymous as our live YouTube podcast.

[01:10:14] Yeah.

[01:10:15] Um, but we need more stories.

[01:10:17] We literally don't have very many anonymous at all.

[01:10:21] So if you have any mess, um, and you want to be considered for an upcoming oops, all anonymous,

[01:10:27] go to messmagnus.com and submit your mess.

[01:10:30] Yes.

[01:10:31] That is our announcement or our live episode is going to be, we're hoping right.

[01:10:37] Like a little holiday, cutesy little thing.

[01:10:39] That's the, that's the goal.

[01:10:42] And we're, yeah, we're going to do an oops, all anonymous live.

[01:10:46] So I think it's going to be ridiculous.

[01:10:48] I think it'll be really fun.

[01:10:49] I think it'll be super fun.

[01:10:50] So I highly recommend that people get their mess in ASAP so that we can get it put together

[01:10:56] and get it or like scheduled.

[01:10:59] Period.

[01:11:00] As soon as possible.

[01:11:01] And now we have one more because that just reminded me of my college.

[01:11:05] They're already best.

[01:11:06] Oh my gosh.

[01:11:08] Um, I love to make sure like I don't shit talk anyone.

[01:11:12] Um, cause especially cause we're live.

[01:11:14] So yeah, you'll have to be, you'll have to be well behaved.

[01:11:17] Yeah.

[01:11:19] Well, for my anonymous, I'll have to figure it out.

[01:11:21] But anyway, it's fine.

[01:11:24] It's just like such a silly story.

[01:11:26] Okay.

[01:11:27] We'll start writing cause I need it.

[01:11:30] Um, but that's it.

[01:11:31] We another episode in the books.

[01:11:34] Killed it.

[01:11:35] Okay.

[01:11:35] As always.

[01:11:36] And listen, I hope you all hang in there.

[01:11:38] I, it's a crazy time.

[01:11:40] All right.

[01:11:40] That's all I'll say.

[01:11:41] Sending you all love.

[01:11:43] Um, and Kirsten, where can the people find you?

[01:11:48] Yes.

[01:11:48] So you can follow me everywhere at Kirsten said what?

[01:11:52] Um, I have.

[01:11:55] I have.

[01:11:55] Tick talk.

[01:11:56] I have Twitch.

[01:11:57] I have Instagram.

[01:11:58] I have Twitter and I'm on blue sky now, baby.

[01:12:01] So.

[01:12:02] Find me there.

[01:12:03] And then maybe the Twitter will go away eventually.

[01:12:07] Period.

[01:12:08] That what about you, Sasha?

[01:12:09] Yes.

[01:12:09] And as for me, as always, you can find me talking, dancing with the stars.

[01:12:14] Um, on the Rob has a podcast, YouTube channel.

[01:12:16] Uh, we took a break this week, uh, because dancing with the stars took a break this week.

[01:12:20] And, um, we'll be back for the 500th episode of dancing with the stars.

[01:12:27] Yeah.

[01:12:28] So join us and we go live after the episode.

[01:12:31] So lots of feelings, lots of craziness.

[01:12:34] Uh, come check it out.

[01:12:36] And of course, Mike Bloom and I are talking, um, are talking to your favorite reality TV stars

[01:12:43] about their favorite scripted shows.

[01:12:45] So we're going to be talking to Franny this week, uh, about Agatha all along.

[01:12:50] So that's finally happening.

[01:12:52] So I'm really excited.

[01:12:54] Uh, such a fun show to talk.

[01:12:56] And you know, I love a little Marvel action.

[01:12:59] So check that out on the, we know scripted TV feed.

[01:13:03] Uh, and for everything else.

[01:13:04] I don't know.

[01:13:05] Just follow me online.

[01:13:06] I don't even want to pulling my Twitter no more.

[01:13:07] I'm so irritated, but yeah, I, I will open a blue sky account.

[01:13:11] So join me.

[01:13:12] Yes.

[01:13:12] Fun size.

[01:13:13] I'm sure.

[01:13:13] Oh, baby.

[01:13:15] No, I think I'll change it.

[01:13:16] I think we'll change it.

[01:13:18] Yeah.

[01:13:18] I think we'll just watch the J.

[01:13:20] Um, Oh four.

[01:13:21] That's right.

[01:13:22] Blue sky account.

[01:13:23] So yeah.

[01:13:24] Listen, she's growing up.

[01:13:26] This is huge.

[01:13:27] I know.

[01:13:28] I know.

[01:13:28] Uh, I just wish I could just take Sasha, but you know, I'm late to the blue sky game.

[01:13:33] So here we are.

[01:13:34] And I know.

[01:13:37] Um, yeah.

[01:13:38] And with that, thank you everyone for listening.

[01:13:40] We will talk to you next week.

[01:13:43] Bye.