Mess Magnets: Inside Mess 2

[00:00:15] Hi, I'm Sasha. I am Pouya. And this is Mess Magnets. We're back, baby. That's right. It's another week, another Mess Magnets, but things are a little bit different today. And if you're seeing us for the first time, hello, welcome. Yes, we are also on the Rob Has a Podcast YouTube today because listen, we have Pouya here, huge get, huge treat, and we're going to be talking about a YouTube show.

[00:00:42] So usually just in case you don't know what Mess Magnets is, we talk about pop culture, whatever's trending right now. And, you know, we try to get it in a compact little package, in a one hour package for you. And then we end with a listener submitted anonymous. So we try to keep it light, fun, and we're still going to be doing that. But today we're going to be talking about Pouya and my favorite topic, YouTube.

[00:01:08] So we're on YouTube. We're talking about a YouTube show, Pouya. And I'm ready. A YouTube show that made its way to Netflix. Yes, true. A glow up since we last talked about it. True. Fair. Thank you, Pouya. Because yes, we are going to be talking about, as the title says, Inside, which is produced by the Sidemen. Pouya and I talked about season one, which is free on YouTube, on the Sidemen channel.

[00:01:37] So maybe you joined us there. Maybe you didn't. But we covered that already. But Sidemen have glowed up, like Pouya said. And now we are talking about Inside, a reality TV show competition. Do you want to talk a little bit about the Sidemen? Because I feel like you put me on to the Sidemen. I don't know whether to say you're welcome or sorry. Yeah.

[00:02:00] Listen, I enjoy them quite a bit. The Sidemen are a YouTube group consisting of seven members that hail from the UK. They've been doing this for over a decade now. Their channel, their group channel came to be around 2015, 2016. And they've been consistently putting out content every week since then. And aside from their main YouTube channel, they each have their own individual channels.

[00:02:27] Some of the members do other stuff like KSI, as y'all may know, not only runs Prime, the drink company, but also does music, is now this season a guest judge on Britain's Got Talent and all this stuff. But all of that. And then they also have their own platform called Side Plus, where that's essentially there, like behind a paywall content.

[00:02:53] They have podcasts, their shows there as well. And then they put together a game show last year called Inside. And that was on their YouTube channels. And then Netflix came in, scooped it up. And now it was available globally for the first time on Netflix for season two. And then at the end of this season, we did get an announcement that a U.S. season is coming as well. They're doing big things out here. They also have their own brands. They've got their own fast food thing. They've got a cereal. They dabble. They're very entrepreneurial.

[00:03:23] Oh, yes. I like it. I like it. Yes. And for folks that don't know, Inside, just like the name, is a Big Brother type type show where we get 12 Internet personalities to come on for seven days. Oh, sorry. Ten. Not 12. Ten. Ten. Ten.

[00:03:45] Ten influencer personalities. And they get locked in the house to be challenged with like multiple tasks and challenges like most of these reality shows do. And they have to fight for a pot of one million pounds at the end of the week. But here's the tea. Everything you need to do to like thrive, not survive, costs money in the shop.

[00:04:09] So that's where like it causes a little bit of drama on what to spend, what not to spend, who's spending the most money, et cetera, et cetera. So that's, I think, what sets this apart. And of course, the like celebrity factor, because you're excited to see like these Internet people just like act out and act up without their phones, without everything.

[00:04:31] Yeah, I've been a big advocate for the last couple of years that a Celebrity Big Brother season should include these YouTubers and content creators because of how much they do stuff for the content. And I feel like this is the type of show that kind of amplifies that and puts a spotlight on the point I've been trying to make where you don't need it to be a big Hollywood name for it to work out. And I love the premise.

[00:05:00] I also, for me, one of the reasons I gravitated towards inside is that, like you said, it is Big Brother-esque in that they're all living under one roof. They're all different people. Some of them may know each other, but most of them don't really are not familiar with each other's work till after they meet.

[00:05:15] But also, I like that they start with the prize at a million, knowing full well at the end of the season, it's not going to be a million because like Sasha said, outside of a bed that's bare bones and three meals a day, which are rice and beans. They are very mid meals. Everything else they want for comfort, they have to pay for it through the shop menu. And even the showers are cold unless you want to pay the premium for hot.

[00:05:44] And this causes a very fun, fun show because some people don't give a damn. They're going to order off the menu whenever they like. They'll do it on the sneak. And then some people are kind of, you know, a little more righteous. They're trying to do it the right way. Some people come in and they take it as a challenge of, well, we are all very Internet dependent. It's nice to try and see if I can pull it off, if I can go without the necessities that I have in my life as comfort items for a week or however long.

[00:06:13] And then drama ensues, whether it's because people are hiding snacks or someone spending money unnecessarily or turns out, Sasha, going to bed too early. Oh, can't wait. Can't wait. The thing is, I would get voted out for that. But like I have FOMO. Well, not FOMO, but I'm charged by people. So I might not go to bed early. Because it's all under one roof, Sasha, you can't Irish goodbye the function and get. So I think you'd be up with everybody.

[00:06:44] But if this was a, OK, we're going to go hang out at this club. Yeah, I'm not going to see Sasha after 1130. She's going to vanish. I'm going to, where did she go? No, don't invite me to no club now that I'm 30 plus. Which is crazy because if you knew me in early 20s, maybe I'd be the last one there. But no more. You could do that. I think you could manage one night. I could do one night. And then don't call me for seven days. Oh, my gosh.

[00:07:14] Yeah, so let's get into it. And of course, you know, if you're watching us on YouTube or if you're listening to us, we are on YouTube. With us lines. So let's talk about the cast. Because listen, I definitely don't know. Actually, I only knew one person. Well, I knew two people on this cast. So what were your first impressions about this cast? So I knew, I think, four or five people on this cast.

[00:07:41] So immediately, based on what I had seen of them coming in, I was like, these are some great picks. I think the most surprising pick for me was Patrice Evra, who is a legend at Manchester United. My favorite, my team. So I knew exactly who this man was. I was like, okay, I did not. And I was a little worried when Patrice got announced. Because I thought, because, you know, we see this with Celebrity Big Brother all the time. People signing up to join and they're like, yeah, no, I don't do any of this shit. I'm out. But Patrice was really given it.

[00:08:11] I feel like he was really in the thick of it, getting involved with these young ins. Everybody knows. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, my God. No. We can't use that phrase anymore. So he's one I knew. Obviously, Whitney, I knew. Because I have watched her season of Love Island to its entirety. I knew who George was. Yes. Because he has collaborated with the Sidemen the last few years. Yeah, that's the only, like, that's one of the people I felt like, oh, I knew well.

[00:08:36] And then I got to, you know, look at my Twitch folks in Jason and Sina, who I'm very familiar with both of their work over on Twitch. Sina basically had a breakout year this past year and has become a lot more prominent in the scene. Jason is only 20, but he also broke the 100K sub barrier on Twitch. So he's also been on the come up. So they were the ones I knew of very well. And then I knew of DDG because I had seen the shorts of him revealing his actual voice.

[00:09:06] We've talked about DDG. So the messengers know DDG now. There we go. Was that your second person you knew? Yeah. Yeah. So I knew George. I knew DDG. And then I actually forgot that I knew Farrah, who is a TikTok influencer as well. And I knew her from, again, like this UK YouTube scene. So Niko, right, NDL, posted a video with her. It was like a boys versus girls challenge.

[00:09:34] And I really enjoyed her. Again, I understand what people are saying about Farrah. Like they don't like her because she's loud. But as a loud girly, I just feel like Farrah is so cute, so funny, so kind that I was fine with her. Well, I feel like what was prominent throughout the show was that Farrah changed that impression that people had of her. Like I think if they did a vote night, one Farrah was going to go home. Yes.

[00:10:03] But I think by the midpoint, you see everyone basically going out of their way to protect Farrah. They want her to win the money. Like she definitely changed the impression people had of her. The other person, actually, I forgot that I did know who they were, was Dylan, because I've seen him on my TikTok for you page a bunch. I know he like he comes in with like the news and breaks down, you know, gives updates on like Internet stuff. So I had seen him as well, but I wasn't as familiar with his work.

[00:10:31] Yeah, he's a TikTok news reporter, which, again, I didn't know him, but makes total sense that folks know him. But maybe not well enough. And of course, in addition, we had PK Humble, who's a content creator. And we had social media influencers. Mia, right here at the bottom. Mia Mills and Mandy Vakili. Again, it's just not clicking, you know.

[00:11:00] She is a podcaster, but then is more so known for being the sister of a Love Islander. And yes. And here's the thing that in the UK, like Love Island is their number one show. So everyone's into it. I feel like Love Island stars like are stars now and they get launched and everyone in their proximity. I feel like it's launched. Yeah, I think it's a little bit.

[00:11:30] Love Island has fallen off a little bit over there in the last couple of years. But for a while, it was the number one show. So I feel like right now and, you know, I don't live in the UK at the moment. But based on my following of stuff, their trends there, I think Traders has started to take over. Oh, fair. Yeah, over there. Yeah. And I'm not mad at that. I love the Traders and I love Love Island. So all of it.

[00:11:57] And of course, Millie Jo as well here on the right side. And she's again, another like influencer. Really cool. But again, I think it's a really interesting cast. I also like the cast reveal where everyone minus Patrice and Uncle P and DDG were announced and they did like a welcome, you know, like a basic. Oh, they're now part of the show, blah, blah, blah. And then we even started a challenge.

[00:12:27] And then after the challenge, we were introduced to DDG and Patrice, who I think have the biggest followings, obviously, out of everyone here. I would say so. I mean, one is a very successful rapper. The other one is a big footballer. So they are like your two bigger celebrity names. And I think getting that reaction from well, it is a show based in the UK.

[00:12:51] So obviously, Patrice got way more of a oh, my God, him versus DDG where the Americans were like, all right, we're sticking together because there's a lot of British people in here. We need to look out for our own. Yeah, thank you. So the Americans were DDG, Sina and Jason.

[00:13:09] So yeah, and DDG, I felt like and we'll talk more about this, but I feel like was one of the only people trying to like do some kind of a strategy, you know, some kind of like, oh, we got to actually like play the game, not just like vibes out. So and that would be my biggest.

[00:13:30] I don't know if complain is the right word, but like a more critical way to watch the show would be like there isn't a lot of strategy or at least not shown in how they're editing the show. Yeah, I feel like this show is not really catered for strategy. It's definitely more so for content, which makes sense, given that it's a YouTube based show. I also think the other part of it is for a lot of them. They're not here for the money. They're here for that screen time. So they're going to mostly do that.

[00:13:59] I think also, I think you do see throughout the show's run. There are some people that kind of try and stay as neutral as possible because I think they recognize that when I leave here, I can farm this for content. If I leave here with good rep, if I leave here with bad rep, that could be just a pain to deal with. Because again, all of these people's lives are online. All of their work is online. So I think that's a part of it.

[00:14:25] Now, to go back to the strategy side of things, I think a couple of things do allow for that to happen. But I think because of the fact that the format is in a way where you're not guaranteed to vote every time to who to eliminate, there's a lot less you can do on the strategy end because you never know who's going to be the one to vote somebody out. The amount of times we had one person decide who leaves. Yeah, wild. Yeah. So it's like, you can't really do much. So just try and, you know, ingratiate yourself to the house as much as you can.

[00:14:55] Um, is this really the direction to take? But DDG, I think would be probably the biggest quote unquote player of the bunch this season. Yeah. And DDG and George for rivals, right? Because another interesting piece, again, going off of DDG and someone that maybe was there less for. For more for their channel growth.

[00:15:19] And I don't mean this negatively, like this is a thing, but more for their channel growth and, you know, their perception, right? Like where you were talking about more neutral is George, where I really enjoyed him on the show. And it was exciting to see him. But DDG, I think, saw him as exactly what we just said. Someone that's neutral, smart, under the radar, gets along with everyone. So DDG was like, no, he got to go. Like, yeah, absolutely not.

[00:15:47] I've seen a lot of people comment about how, wow, DDG had this one-sided rivalry with George. Maybe, but I think, again, DDG was somebody who was thinking of Endgame and realizing that, yeah, George is not upset anybody. He's someone who I think could go all the way. He's someone who could beat me in a lot of these games. So I feel like recognizing that doesn't mean you hate a person. It just means that, you know, you are like, you admire what they can do. And you're like, I don't want to be caught. I don't want to get snipped.

[00:16:16] So I think that's something worth pointing out. George was so much fun on the show. I think George's humor is very underrated. He's very quick-witted. And he was delivering some very fun confessionals. But there were moments also where I was like, man, George is going through it. He's just like, yeah, he's just frustrated because people keep spending money on the dumbest things. But I also would say George bought the most outrageous stuff from the shop. Correct. Everything he bought was the random items that were hella cheap for no reason.

[00:16:44] It was like, all right, I'm going to buy the lube because it's very cheap. I don't need it, but I'm going to buy it to see what it is. So I feel like he did. And then he uses that. Yeah. And then he uses that on the table tennis to just slide. I thought they were going to get mad. I thought they were going to get mad when he was there. What are you doing? But thankfully, that didn't come to be. Content. Okay. And that's one thing. What these people are good at is creating content.

[00:17:09] But to me, the most underrated content creator was Uncle P. Right? Like Patrice was so funny. He's so mad at everyone for spending money. He's pissed the hell off. He's like, y'all got me out here doing this. But I wanted to play the game so bad. And his elimination was truly the saddest thing for me.

[00:17:35] It was tough because basically for their elimination, they did, if I remember correctly, what the final game was in season one. Which is the old, and Squid Games, the challenge did this in their final game. Their second to last game. Where everyone puts blindfolds on. They're seated in a room. Randomly, one person gets chosen. And they have to get up and basically pick someone to be marked for elimination. Then that person unmasks.

[00:18:03] And they have to figure out who picked them. If they pick wrong, they're eliminated. If they pick right, that person's eliminated. And I feel like Patrice basically on default was like, everyone thought, he's rich. We don't need him to stick around. So when it came down to him and PK, they voted him out. But then when it was, and they separated the guys with the girls on that challenge.

[00:18:25] And then with the girls' side, with Mia being the one quote-unquote eliminated, I really thought, okay, the minute they introduced a buyback of, okay, one of you's only leaving. I thought, okay, Mia's safe now. Because they didn't really want to eliminate Mia anyway. It just kind of happened. And then, of course, that was the case. And the overarching storyline was, Patrice is a billionaire. He has money. Which I did love Patrice being like, what billionaire?

[00:18:54] I don't know how billions. He's like, I don't want to go to Dubai. Because they're constantly being like, no, you just wanted to go back to home to Dubai. And he's like, what are you guys talking about? I want to play. And I felt like they were low-key trolling him on maybe some facts. And it was just going completely over his head. And just chef's kiss for that. He seemed to me like he can take a joke. Oh, hell yeah. He was like, I understand their perception. Like, I get that they think I have money.

[00:19:23] I get that they think, like, my life's fine. And that's fine with me. I'm okay with that. Yeah. It's just so good. Again, but that was, like, to me, the saddest elimination. But listen, spoiler alert. Because that Mia coming back, you know, had the JAG storyline of Big Brother. Because she was eliminated. She comes back with the help of her fellow contestants.

[00:19:46] Because, of course, Mia and PK and Whitney have a strong three voting block. And nothing can really change that. DDG, like, I feel like goes in and out of that voting block. But it's really those three. And that's where I think Sina, Jason, everyone else should have picked up on and started voting together against them. Or at least Millie, Joe, George, and one more person. Yeah.

[00:20:16] I think the most frustrating thing for me the whole season was the amount of... Because, like I said, there wasn't a lot of times where everyone could vote. But any time there was an opportunity like that, there was at least one or two people that were like, I'm just going to burn my vote because I don't think anything's going to come of this. And obviously, I didn't want my faves gone. Yes. But part of me felt like, okay, but if Sina does leave here because, Jason, you thought no one's going to vote for her, that should be a wake-up call for you.

[00:20:46] So I didn't like that at all. That was like the only thing I took issue with was people burning votes. But other than that, I think the way the eliminations went were very fascinating. Because I think had they not gone that way, this could have been a more dull season. Because, for example, when PK is the person who can eliminate... Oh, sorry. PK and Patrice are the two that can eliminate. Because they spent the most in PK, of course. And spent the least in Uncle P. Yeah.

[00:21:16] Which I thought that was a fun twist, by the way, to give both of them a voting power. I think that's exactly how you do a fun show because this is from season one. Nobody come for me. But listen, if I'm going to screenshot Netflix, y'all do it, not me. Anyway, so this is from season one. But the look is the exact same. It's just... And Specs was there for season two. He made an appearance. He made an appearance. And he was at the shop. All right. So anyway, in season one, this is very similar where they had to go to the shop.

[00:21:45] On the side were the prices of everything. So PK would just like buy 17 things and only use three. And then the food upgrades or whatever he bought would just sit right here, y'all. Literally behind these doors. And then when someone else came down, the doors would open. And then here's the food or whatever extra ass money he spent. Would just like go. Yeah. Well, the amount of times we saw PK order something,

[00:22:13] then just leave only for the screen to say unclaimed item in the shop. Um, was hilarious. And he also took a hot shower at one point. He also hit. He was part of the bandits that hid chocolates in the gym. Yeah. So he was spending a lot, a lot. So it was funny to me that they gave him the power to eliminate someone and Patrice. And together they were like, okay, well, we just lost the man. We should probably go for a woman here to balance things out.

[00:22:42] And I wouldn't have expected him to go Mandy. Cause I thought they, he was like, cause it really was a four person alliance. Mandy, Mia, Whitney, and PK. But I think in hindsight, that was a great call by him because Mandy leaving meant, first of all, less like, you know, you're going to spend a lot of money. You kind of took out someone who's spending the next amount of money. Right. So not bad for positive money spend, but also it made them become a smaller group.

[00:23:09] And I think Mandy was somebody that was getting on people's nerves as far as spending went. So you wouldn't want your, your group to look at, be looked at and targeted. So I think eliminating her and making the group look smaller was good. I think that did ultimately help them out. And I think there is unfortunately a, whatever bias was going on with the, you know, each cast has their own bias. So they looked at PK like, ah, shucks.

[00:23:36] He's our only spender and that's okay because he is the glue guy and he got, you know, he's fun and he like silly does a lot of like, uh, vibes things that we need because we have nothing else to do on the show. So I think that's where I really enjoyed their, they were able to enjoy it. And I was really able to be like, yeah, we need a chaos agent. And that's what PK was never tells a lie, but he does tell a joke. Yeah. I mean, that was, yeah. Yeah.

[00:24:05] He lied so much, uh, on the show and it was just interesting to me because I feel like PK definitely was drawing a lot of comparisons to Castillo from, uh, season one, um, or Castillo as you would call it a Fanta light brev. He was that person this season spending a lot, hiding the food. Um, so he drew a lot of comparisons. And I feel like nowadays what we see with the internet is the minute someone is doing

[00:24:33] something someone else has done, they're called what discount blank, Timu blank, she in blank. So it was a lot of that. But what I did find fascinating about PK is that there were moments where he was definitely in strategic conversations. Like he wasn't doing it alone there. He was in strategic conversations. He's talking behind his, his, uh, the back of the people that he's working with. He's talking, then he's telling them that he said that. And it was just mess.

[00:25:02] Like PK looked like mess, but then also no one voted him out. He was safe the entire way. He was, he could have been up for elimination a bunch of times, but I don't think he caught a vote at all going into the final three. Yeah. And no, I think that's what was really, uh, one of the reunion points was what PK just like not sore because I think social game is important, but that's what it felt like that

[00:25:28] he just had really good social game and no one wanted to vote for him, but they, they weren't worried about him. They thought I, the biggest threat is when someone says they're okay right now, I'll take them out later because when it's mess. I also think the difference between this cast and last, and maybe I'm not remembering last season that well, is that I feel like from like day one, this cast basically said, yeah, as long as we leave here with like 300 grand or not bad.

[00:25:58] So them setting that expectation of if we can hold it to that, let's have fun. I think amplified both the season and also made people be more forgiving of the heavy spenders. It wasn't as big of a deal. I also think this cast genuinely did not even try with the meals where like last season, a lot of people did deal with the rice and beans from episode one. We, everyone was getting meal upgrades or sharing meal upgrades and they didn't, they didn't bother. They were like, you know what? Let's get the comfort. Let's have fun.

[00:26:33] It's a bad way to look at it. I know that a sinner brings up in the, in the reunion that for a lot of people, they saw that as monopoly money because it's not real. So let's just spend it. Who cares? But I also think that is what you should expect with all these content creators where they're like, I'm here for a, for a week. I'm not trying to starve myself for no reason. I might not even be here to get the money, which I think is a very fair point, especially when you never know who's going to get eliminated next. I think spending is fine.

[00:27:01] It's just a matter of spending it and not having people resent you for it. And I think PK definitely showed that he was able to do that because Sasha, the other thing PK lied about, which was pretty big was when they did their night watch challenge again and they had the temptation room in there and PK was offered, what was it? The 10 K for himself. And if he takes that 50 K is removed from the prize pot or 30 K was removed from the prize pot. Yeah. I think it was 30. Yeah. He inflated those numbers. He didn't take it.

[00:27:30] And then he's like, they offered me 50 K. I turned it down. And, or it would have been a hundred or 150 K. Yeah. The price pot, blah, blah, blah. You damn liar. It's so. And they exposed that when they did the spill the tea challenge where they give them the clips and stuff. No one like had an, like no one was mad at him. And I think again, that's a testament to both his like social game or social like friendships

[00:27:56] he has made, but also the mentality of this cast being different than I think the other cast we had seen. Yeah. Again, I think this is a DDG far be it for me to give, you know, DDG his flowers, but DDG comes in and says, listen, right. Like he, this is what's the most practical 300,000, even split three ways or two ways, whatever split period is still a lot of money for all of us. So we should be okay with, I think changing that group thing.

[00:28:25] Plus, like we said, PK thing. I think why PK gets got away with specifically lying about the Nightwatch challenge is because he didn't take the money. So they just were like, oh, this is part of your persona of just like playing with us, but still doing quote unquote the right thing. And then they ended up giving him like there was another opportunity to get 10K and he was given the 10K. They were like, yeah, PK, take it. Take it.

[00:28:55] Cause you didn't take the other, I'm sorry. What? Okay. Anyway, but again, people liked him in the house. So, so what are you going to do about that? Like they, they liked them. And I think a lot of people didn't want, they were worried that it would, they would get penalized for it. As in someone might look around and vote them out because they're like, oh, I'm sorry, but you have 10K already. And I think PK is like one of the few people that can get away with getting that and no blowback from the rest of the group. Yup. It's just, again, and that's how social dynamics are really interesting.

[00:29:24] Where if two people in a group, right? They, everyone has different social standings. So if X person does this and Y person also does it like a PK and Mandy situation, one, why one of the people is definitely going to get blowback while the others don't. It's just, this is why these shows and all of us on RHAP, like all the listeners even, right? Like enjoy watching this because it doesn't, it could be a copy paste of the same exact

[00:29:54] format, but because of how humans interact with each other, it's always going to be so different. And, and I think PK and Mandy are great examples of just that. So, so good. But, but you know, let's also talk about the first elimination because that is to me, the funniest thing ever. DDG gets given, um, unfortunately, yeah, randomly, of course the, uh, he gets a card to pick an

[00:30:23] eliminated, uh, to pick someone to eliminate because at first people thought, Oh, car, like a random chance DDG is about to get eliminated. And here's the thing, Pouya question. If it wasn't DDG that got that card, is it a random elimination? Unless Dylan gets the card. I think we were always going to have Dylan. Oh, you mean as in if it, if DDG didn't get the X, would they have said, all right, you're eliminated. Goodbye.

[00:30:52] I mean, that's a, that's a conspiracy I'd listen to. I know me. I, I feel like that would be, I think the key for the show is the sidemen don't want the cast to be like the sidemen are the enemy. Uh, cause they're, they're trolled a little bit. KSI is on the mic every morning, waking them up and stuff. But I think that you kind of want the beefs or the, the drama to be from inside the house. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I think it was always going to be a, Oh, you think you're eliminated? Cause you're like nervous. Oh my God, that's I'm out. Like psych.

[00:31:22] Not only are you not out now you eliminate somebody. And now it's a whole other drama for a whole different reason. But look, Dylan was always cooked. I think Dylan was easily the main, I'm going to save the money. I'm here to prove that I can do this person. We had the couple last season. I think that's fine. I think he could have been, he wouldn't have been eliminated for that. What ends up being very clear is that everyone else for the first two nights hung out together.

[00:31:51] Uh, you know, the FOMO kicked in Sasha, as they say, where everyone hung out, they got to know each other. They had a big bonding session. I think the second night, but Dylan would go to bed super early and then wake up super early when everyone's asleep. So he was a little bit detached from the group. Bless him. And like, listen, I'm happy you have a healthy sleep schedule because I cannot relate. But in a game like this, you don't want to be isolating yourself like that.

[00:32:16] I think what sucked about it, Sasha, is that the night before he was given a mission. I know. To put 10% back in the prize fund and he succeeded in that. I couldn't believe it. You know what I mean? Like, again, you couldn't script better work. Or maybe you can't because maybe they knew that, hey, we're doing an elimination tomorrow. Dylan's most likely going to go home. This would be the ultimate troll. But poor Dylan gets a massage gun, which costs a lot of money from the shop, but you know,

[00:32:46] it's fine. And ends up going under Uncle P's bed because content, right? That's the guy that's going to be most pissed off that we spent money. And they all start coming for PK. So because of that, Dylan's safe. I like it. Yeah. So that was always going to go that way for me with Dylan, unfortunately.

[00:33:12] But I will say if this was a night earlier, if this was first day, I think Farrah would have gone. Yeah, I think she definitely came in with a lot of energy, very loud. And I think a lot of people were immediately a little bit spooked by that and a little bit like, what is going on? Why are you doing this? So I think now with Dylan gone, that kind of left Farrah completely safe. And like I mentioned earlier, I don't know what they shared in these bonding sessions, but there were actively people in the game.

[00:33:42] They're like, I need Farrah to be safe. I want her to win. I want her to win the whole money. I think she probably just shared like her life and, you know, just shared herself, which this is also my question. But I was going to ask at the end, but it's OK. We can talk about it now because it came up in a few eliminations. Definitely comes up at the end. But do you believe in like if you're rich, like you shouldn't win? If you're rich, you should. No, I don't.

[00:34:09] Like, I feel like if you all sign up to be on the show, you're all here to win or make content or whatever your motive is. But if your motive is I want to win, then why not? I think maybe hide that you have more money. Maybe don't wear your bank and then get get into your feelings that someone brought that up. But I think that's the key because, you know, and this has come up in other shows we talk

[00:34:36] about and watch on this network with like Survivor people arguing that you should never have to like people shouldn't vote based on what are you going to do with the money? I think that's fair. But I think when it's asked and you have an answer ready now, like people can use that as their decision. It's on them. But I think when all is said and done, Sasha, and there's this TikTok that I really enjoy where it's to do with I'm going to take on a tangent. It's to do with like it's to do with like request.

[00:35:03] It is like a skit and it's like I'm requesting more break from work. And the boss is like, did you not just have a vacation? And the guy's like, listen, when you eat chicken biryani, don't you want to sometimes eat more chicken biryani? Yes. I and to me, if you have money, what's a little more extra money? Like why would because I have money, I should be content. No, let me stat pad a little bit. Let me now have extra walking around money or now that thing I wanted to buy.

[00:35:32] I can buy with my winnings here and then my money doesn't change. Like, I think that's fair. That's very fair. So, yeah, a million percent agreed with you. I also don't think money should play a factor. The thing that I maybe like an asterisk, I will say is also, I think less or smaller known creators, right? If they stayed the whole time, they're likely to get more exposure in addition to whatever money they get.

[00:36:01] So I think that also could be a reason why Farah, who's 24, right? She's pretty young. Maybe is able to move and get a little bit more exposure and get herself, put herself out there as opposed to maybe other folks that were a little bit more established in their areas. Yeah. Because I think what maybe goes on set or people might not think about is that content creators aren't all like successful content creators aren't all making good money.

[00:36:29] I think people don't recognize that TikTok revenue versus YouTube revenue versus Twitch revenue are very different. Twitch, you're 100% dependent on like having live viewers is good because the bigger the viewership, the more the ads will pay you. But for the most part, it's to do with your subscription. As many, like, so like I said earlier, Jason at one point broke the 100K barrier at a 70-30

[00:36:54] split at $5 a sub, that's a decent chunk of change for one month's worth versus TikTok. You can, I've seen like KSI, I think on a podcast, look through his phone and looked at his revenue from TikTok. It wasn't a lot. It was like, was it even four figures? I don't think so. And he's a big creator. I think YouTube probably makes you the most money if your content creation is successful

[00:37:19] because it goes by CPM, a million views gets you, nets you a lot of return and so on. So I think that you keeping that in perspective, not all these people are making the same amount of money, but also a lot of them will use all of them, right? Like, I think recognizing that if you're popular on Twitch, your viewers on YouTube are going to be smaller, but there, if you're probably on TikTok, your YouTube will be smaller and so on.

[00:37:47] And then obviously like someone like Mia who does like Instagram, Instagram is like the one place that I'm not as familiar with, but I have to imagine there's a lot of money coming in with like partnerships or sponsorships that you get and you got to make stories about the product and stuff like that. So it's different money everywhere, but a lot of them will diversify and do all of them. A lot of the people in this season have started streaming on Twitch now after the season happened or, you know, putting as much content out there as they can.

[00:38:17] So it's, it's a fun thing to think about and talk about because I've obviously looked into a lot of these things, but also it's, it's recognizing that I think ideally you want to do all of them, but it's also the same thing, Sasha, when like Vine was a thing and the Viners were making good money, but then when Vine shut down, only a few of them were able to make it to YouTube. So it was almost like, Oh, being a YouTuber first and then having Vine was better than being a Viner first and then having a YouTube.

[00:38:46] So it just depends where you get popular. Because you're short form content and I can't imagine how hard it is to like, then be like, okay, now I have to change it to at least a certain amount of minutes and run time. And my, you know, the, my fans are used to like five second clips to now I have to add all the, all of that. Like the Dolan twins are, I think a big one that we're able to make that change successfully, but it's just, I being a content creator is so hard and shout

[00:39:14] out to everyone that's able to do it. Cause it couldn't be me. It's a lot of work. Um, it's a lot of recognizing what field you're in, how to maximize your, your longevity there. But then also because it's a creative jump, you have to be passionate about it and you have to be, if you don't like the content you're doing, your audience will all, it will translate. They will not be receptive to it as much. Um, yeah, it's a fun combo. As you

[00:39:41] can tell, I clearly like talking about this. Listen, and that's why we're here. Okay. Yeah. It's great. We love it. And yeah. So I think that's really interesting to say, Dylan, it goes bye-bye. And I felt like DDG was the best person to do that first elimination cause they kind of see the house was seeing him as like the, the quote unquote leader in that way. I felt like where they were like turned to him on like strategy and like what to do,

[00:40:08] when to do it kind of moments. Then the Mandy elimination, woof, wild. I must say. Then, uh, we already talked about it. Then the Farrah George elimination. Oh my God. Cause you already talked about how Sina gets the third, actually most votes. If we're being correct. Let's talk about it. Yeah. That's what I want to talk about. So of course,

[00:40:37] the point of this elimination was the whole house gets to vote, but, and George had immunity, the, the vote before. Oops. Sucks. He doesn't get it now. And the whole house is voting. But the thing is very sequester, like where the first person that gets votes, of course it's eliminated, but the second person that gets the most votes gets immunity. I loved it. So now you have to,

[00:41:06] you have to be a little bit more strategic. And this is where I thought they would talk to each other more to be like, who are we, you know, piling the votes on? What are we feeling? And again, I felt like the Whitney, Mia PK contingent were able to do that versus everyone else. And we know DDG like was going to vote George, like dull. He been talking about it, uh, since the night watch at least.

[00:41:30] So this is where we end up with a Farrah George tie. I loved it. I loved it. I did too. I was bricking it a little because up until this point, I was like content, content, good, good, good. When it was George versus, I knew they were going to pile them on on George. And I just didn't want George to leave here. Um, and Farrah, I, while I was enjoying her stuff on the

[00:41:55] show, I just didn't want a guaranteed winner. And I feel like if she had survived here, I don't see them trying to vote her out from here on out. I feel like, you know, we kind of see this a little bit at the end where PK is like, I can't do this to Sina. I think Farrah's in that same spot. And then it's like, well, I didn't, I didn't, again, I understand people being more like not deserving of the money, but you want them to have the money. But then if you're just like walking them to the

[00:42:22] end to give them the money, that's not no fun for me. I want a little adversity. And George was that adversity. So when they said rock, paper, scissors, I was in disbelief. I was like, this is going to rock, like this is going to suck. And then she leaves, she loses rock, paper, scissors. And like you, I thought, okay, so second highest votes should technically be George because George had four votes. Yeah. And he didn't go. So he should be second, but then they give it,

[00:42:52] they gave it to Sina, which I think was safe. Otherwise she only got votes because we were burning them. So it should have been George, but it didn't matter anyway. So we're fine. But I just, especially because I think George and Sina, Sasha were because the person immune got to eliminate the next person. I think both would have eliminated Whitney in that spot. So I think it worked out in that it was the same result no matter what.

[00:43:19] Yep. I million percent. I just thought that George could have got it and that's fair is fair, but I like Sina, so it's fine. I love when good things happen to my fave and it was, it was okay. I, it was pretty clear to me from, I think episode three that I felt like, oh, Sina is definitely going to the end because she's so well insulated with the American Alliance. And I think she's able

[00:43:47] to like build with everyone else and she doesn't spend, which I think folks see her as like, she doesn't spend and doesn't shame for spending. So I think she was getting a lot of like good, positive stuff from that as well to be like, okay, I'm not going to spend, but like, fine, y'all do it, I guess. And she would have other people buying for her. So she was still part of all

[00:44:11] the social, uh, like conversations in the house. She wouldn't like isolate. I'm sorry, Dylan. So that's why I felt like Sina was like a good lock there. Yeah, for sure. I think the other thing is that, uh, her DDG and Jason silently being a, a locked Alliance was also a good shout because I think the one thing that was guaranteed was that people knew Mia Whitney and PK were a three.

[00:44:41] So naturally taking one of them out, especially the one that you're not maybe vibing with the most makes sense in that spot. Um, whereas like George was like, I'm not looking at sin. Like George was like, I don't think was looking at any of the Americans. Um, the Americans are not looking at each other. Sin is not looking at George. Jason's not looking at George. So there was just a lot less options left on the table to, uh, to have, you know, her go out. Yeah. And good for her. All right.

[00:45:08] And then that's how we get to the end where we get the safe way, uh, safe or not safe moment where you get to pick a huge pyramid like the set work on that one. So it's a nice pyramid where you randomly picked by the sidemen, two people come up, one person has to say, I've either eliminated or safe.

[00:45:33] They were all being very altruistic being like, no PK was like, I told you, I won't lie. Um, this is safe or not, you know, or eliminated and karma works for PK and he goes through, he's safe, which is nice. Then, uh, of course, Jason gets eliminated by George because Jason also doesn't lie.

[00:45:59] And then, oh, and Millie Jo gets eliminated as well. Sorry. Um, but I think it was inconsequential. I'm sorry, Millie Jo, you're great. Um, anyway, but yeah, sorry. So now we're in the finale. This is what happens. And I will say if folks get eliminated, we're moving, we're moving. Jason's gone. And, uh, PK's moved on to the next round and DGG comes up and we know DGG V George. And George has been

[00:46:28] pulled up every time that he's eligible to come up. It feels like, so George is up and now DGG has to decide to lie to George or not lie to George because listen, he, that's his rival. One way of rivalry, maybe, but statistically George should have sat back down and let DDG take whatever it is.

[00:46:57] Yeah. I think he should have for sure sat back down and then risked for that last one. Um, but he doesn't, he, I think also getting it three times in a row, you're just like, all right, let me just call bluff here because it can't be the same result three times in a row or whatever. So that was unlucky for George. Can I, my one gripe with this was of all the people that were

[00:47:21] left in the game and playing, I was so irritated that Mia basically got nothing until the very end because Mia, I feel like was the most inoffensive person on the show for me outside of the Van Cleef, like snippy stuff that happened. It like, she was eliminated and can't comes back. So I can't fault her for feeling a type of way, but the fact that she just sat there while like George had to go three times, uh, PK had to go the first two times and everyone's going through it. And then

[00:47:51] Mia pulls up to DDG who we are crediting with all this strategy thinking and DDG just lays the sword down and says, take it. You'll be safe. Take it. I feel like we taught, we just talked about how you go for the, you go for the win, whatever no one deserved, not deserve. But as far as content to reward ratio goes, I think Mia gave us the least of the three winners. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. And

[00:48:17] she got eliminated, which again, it's not her fault, but it's just very funny to me. Yeah. And yeah, I think DDG was like, well, now that I eliminated George, I got my win that I think that's all he cared about, which bummer, weird ending. Uh, but I think this is where, again, it's hard. There's only so much you can do with social dynamics on the line. I think now this is the second season where we're

[00:48:44] ending the show on a splitter steel. Right. And I feel like the problem with this show is that they're all there in that house. They got nothing but time. They're bonding. They're like, unless you get a Mandy and PK at the final two, you're, you're not going to get that split result. Yep. And you're almost guaranteed to not have them both at the end because games like this, where you could

[00:49:10] just eliminate each other, they're not going to let each other get that far. They'd have to be very lucky to get there because when the end was PK, Sina and Mia, you wouldn't, we could tell PK was kind of flirting with me on the low. We can tell that PK wanted Sina to be safe because he literally was honest with her. Um, the only threat of split was PK and I just didn't see him doing it to these two

[00:49:34] specific people. Yeah. Agreed. I wonder if it was anyone else. He, if he would have done it, but there's no way. And I think Sina was too loved by the house for them to like steal from her. If anything, she should have stole, but she, she wouldn't. That's why she made it that far. Yeah. Well, I think it's tough also because unlike a big brother or, or these other shows, you're there to win. Everyone knows you're there to win. You're there to win life-changing money for your family and

[00:50:04] stuff. Um, but I think with these content creators, there are a lot of them are going to start collabing either during the season or after the season. These are like collaboration opportunities. And to a content creator, collaboration is, is good stuff. So do you really want to like get all the way to the end and then snake them? And then people feel some type of way about you now. I think also a lot of these content creators would have been like, that was drama. That was a good time. I can't believe

[00:50:31] you did it. But, and also it was like 90 K like my, my life's fine. Oh, they could have done it. They could have done it. Oh, Mandy being like 90 K is nothing. I was like, take many seats, Mandy, because that is outrageous to say. A billionaire wouldn't even say that. They would be like, they give me 90 K what the heck? To some people that's three years salary,

[00:50:54] four years salary even. So what are we doing? Again, pipe down. And 90 K pounds. So even more money for dollars. That passes the six figure mark for us. Yes. Yeah. Well, really? What are we doing here? Because yes, uh, like when we get to the end, the price fund is about 294,000 pounds.

[00:51:15] So lots of money and yeah, they each, uh, walk away with 97, um, almost 98,000. So almost PK leaves with 108. Cause he had that 10 K. I think that's the other part, Sasha, because he was given that extra bit of money. I think he looks like a absolute Dick if he steals here. Oh, fair.

[00:51:40] That's the other part. Like they gave him an extra 10 K only for him to do this. I don't know how that would have gone down. I think for PK, the way he played and the, and the money spending, that's somebody who doesn't expect to be at the end. So just getting here and now making bonds. He's like, you know what? That was fun. Let me take my six figures and dip. I'm fine. I don't need to get more at the same point. And it's a great, again, a great amount of money. Like I don't think

[00:52:06] it's nothing to scoff at. And I felt like that was a good balance of like content, spending money at the shop while still, you know, not leaving with like 10 K each or something like that. So I enjoyed it. And, and then you think it's over, but it's not because we get a reunion, a little weird, a little disjointed, but I feel like a lot of the, uh, the way they've edited the show in general,

[00:52:35] we know because of how other folks have come out and chatted that there was a lot of stuff, a lot of fights that were left out. A lot of like conversations were left out. Bummer. Um, don't know why Netflix chose to do that, but here we are and it is what it is. But so did the reunion because we only get like one real fight with Mandy and PK where they revisit their tension.

[00:53:00] And Mandy says, PK doesn't deserve the money. And then they start talking about PK's tattoo, which is messy work. So then he goes, well, you have a botched BBL. Yeah. Yeah. They were taking jabs at each other. Um, because Mandy coming in as the second boot, extremely bitter, I think, even still at this reunion that she was taken out by her friend.

[00:53:28] She doesn't understand it. Also, I think it doesn't help that earlier in the, before she goes, PK literally frames her by buying chocolate and putting it in her like drawer. So it was like, he was then pinning on her that she's the biggest spender. And then it comes out that he is the biggest spender. And then he uses that voting power to boot Mandy. So I understand that there was some tension there and like rightfully so potentially, but these jabs from both ends were

[00:53:54] unnecessary. Um, and I feel like she came in a lot hot and then PK literally balanced it out by going maybe even beyond. And that was, that was a little bit tough to watch, especially because this didn't feel like it was like a 36 minute reunion and it didn't feel, and I almost wish, I don't know which part, what the timeline was on recording this, but I almost wish they would show

[00:54:20] them clips, more clips and like have them react to those moments. I feel like that's what we missed out here with the reunion. But I also want to say kudos to Netflix, because I think this is the first time they've done the Sasha, we got a daily episode release, not all in a bunch. And I thought that was so much fun. I had an episode every night ready for me to watch. I love that. So I hope that made them feel like they can do that more. I think in the UK inside was like in the top two, the whole week

[00:54:49] on the US, I only saw it in top 10 once it was ninth and not again. So I don't know if it, I don't know how much it did in numbers for the US side of things, but it was successful on the UK side of things for sure. Yeah, it's just, it's so good. I, again, I enjoyed it because I felt like I had something to look forward to every day. And it, because I'm in the West coast, it never felt like that long for me anyway, because I woke up and there was already a new episode there for me.

[00:55:19] So I think for Americans in general, the timing worked out. And even for us, West coasters, even better where we were like, Oh, I can watch it. Even if I watch it later in the day, I'm good. I can watch it tomorrow morning, another episode. And we had enough time to like get into the P into, uh, into the piece into like chatting with what people think, because what I felt like was missing, right. Is that you don't have YouTube comments, um, to read. Yeah. They would be very

[00:55:46] positive. It was just like, wow, let me piss myself off by reading the comment. That was me last year. I was in shambles from Enrica. I was like, y'all piss me off. Leave my girl alone. But it's okay. Whatever. Um, Enrica is like still getting weird threads. I don't know what's going on here, but it, it is what it is. Here we are. So I just, yeah, I, I felt like all of that was really

[00:56:15] exciting. And then we had certain people that I will say I also didn't vibe with, but no one to where I would like send death threats to like, everyone needs to calm down. Like for real, for real. Um, I, I didn't appreciate Whitney, like talking about uncle P like, like when he was talking and like making fun of his English, um, just as an immigrant, as someone, um, whose parents had an

[00:56:39] accent. I mean, I had an accent too. Um, but I just like grew up in Oklahoma and like felt like, oh, I need to like lose there or to fit in. And when I'm mad, it comes back out. But everyone, you know, like having an accent just equals, you might speak a different language. So what are we doing here? It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. It absolutely. I just didn't understand those comments.

[00:57:06] And also the whole like mean girl thing obviously was very much being mentioned earlier in the season. And I didn't see it that way in the beginning, but in this reunion with, you know, every second Sina was talking, Mia keeps looking back at Whitney and they're giggling amongst themselves. It felt so rude to me. Um, and I don't know if the, the liquor was flowing and everyone was a little bit tipsy

[00:57:30] here, but I just felt like it was just unnecessarily tenuous and, and tension filled, which just made the whole, I was like, I kind of don't care about this reunion anymore. I'm usually pro drama. This didn't feel like good drama to me. Yeah. And again, the Mandy PK stuff, at least they were both like on equal footing and going at each other. So it's like fine, even though it got personal, at least it's

[00:57:53] both, but this one, it felt like, I don't even think it's punching down. Cause like Patrice, like, I don't think it's like necessarily under or, you know, like less famous or whatever you want to say than Whitney. But it just was like, it's just a weird thing to do. I just feel like there's so many other things you can make fun of uncle P for like, Oh, you're stingy. You didn't want us to pay like blah, blah, blah. But to be like, your English is so good. Just the dude speaks six

[00:58:22] languages. Like, what are we doing here? It's silly. And like, at no point was anything he Patrice said unintelligible. Like it wasn't like a, Oh, it got lost in translation or, Oh, I wasn't sure. That's what he meant. You knew what he meant every time. So I, it was unnecessary for no reason, but you know, what are you going to do? I will say while I didn't agree with Whitney on the show,

[00:58:48] and this is again, Whitney, somebody I really enjoyed on love Island, uh, original run, but I think one thing is very prominent and that is, I can say I wasn't vibing with some of the stuff Whitney was doing, but I also think that what people are doing outside of the house, outside of the show is unnecessary. She's getting death threats. She's getting a racist, uh, remarks sent at her slur sent

[00:59:12] at her. That has no place in, in, in this kind of show. And it's unfortunate that, and I think granted a lot of these comments, when you read them, you're hoping it's not an adult. You're hoping it's a child that doesn't know better, uh, of the weight of these words and, and the severity of the things they're saying. Um, and I think obviously with the internet audience, they're probably skewing younger. Um, so I'm going to go out and hope that's the case for kids to like say stuff like this too.

[00:59:40] It's grim. It's absolutely grim. It's just, it's unnecessary. And the thing is, if you can't handle these, uh, reality shows, maybe don't watch them because, and this same to trainers, uh, fans, but anyway, it's just like, why are we watching any kind of shows where you have to vote people out, where you're, you know, trying to get to the end? There's only three people that could get to the end

[01:00:03] out of 10. So how, oh yeah. Oh my God. Um, so what are we doing here to try to, you know, be disrespectful to people once they're off the show, you weren't in the house and you're seeing an edited content like edit it in any way. I bet you if editors wanted, they could make a complete, they could have made Senna look terrible, but they didn't. But I'm just saying it's like a possibility.

[01:00:32] Yeah, for sure. So it's just like, I just feel like it's fine if you want to like make fun of people while they're on the show and being like, oh, you're so silly. Like that's ridiculous, but I've done it. So like, I don't want to be hypocritical, but then I think once they're off the show memory of a goldfish, we just gotta move on from them and not fan any flames of people that just like do normal, annoying stuff. Not like people that are like genuinely bad. That's right.

[01:01:00] But, but let's just be a little bit grownups. That's all. Anyway, I just, I had to say it. Cause yeah, it's just like, it feels icky even for me to watch the show. Cause I was like, am I not the target Democrat? Like what's happening? Um, so yeah, that is inside. Is there anything else? Yeah. No, um, I had a lot of fun. This last week was absolutely a good time watching this. And, you know, I was excited that you and I were going to join up to talk about it once again,

[01:01:29] because this is the type of show that I would like to bring to people's attention because, you know, we have our fill of competitive reality TV that is strategic intensive. Yes. I feel like we don't talk about enough about, uh, competitive reality shows that are more social based and just more slice of life. You're kind of watching them live their life together, but then

[01:01:55] also someone's going to win something at the end. And I enjoy stuff like that quite a bit. So, Hey, if you're looking for something like that right now, give this a try. Yeah. And it's on Netflix. So check it out. Seven episodes, eight with a reunion. Like it's not that much. Yeah. And it's a fast watch. Like nothing is like so boring or laggy. Like that's where I'll give the editing credit is just, uh, I think they cut out too much. Uh, if, if anything. So with that,

[01:02:23] listen, you, it wouldn't be a mess magnets episode if we don't do an anonymous. True. Are we, are we ready? Yes. Great. And again, if you don't know, this is our listeners submitted mess or messengers submit their life's drama. So here's a T okay, everyone. If you have some drama,

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[01:03:10] It's short. It's short. This is a story of how I had to send a screenshot to a cop that said, bro, I just saw Carl taking a piss outside his house. This person texted this to an officer, send a screenshot to a cop that said, yes. So it all started back in October when I was making my

[01:03:37] coffee in the morning, I looked outside. I looked out of the side window of my kitchen and saw my 60 year old neighbor. Let's call him Carl. Names have been changed with very up of you anywhere, with his boxers around his knees, peeing next to his driveway. I got a full frontal view of everything. I immediately sent my husband above the text, but we decided to not only send a report

[01:04:03] in if it happened again, we decided to, sorry, only send a report in if it happened again. Fast forward one month, I get a call from the local police department. First question they ask me is, have you seen your neighbor naked? Oh, literally that was the response. Oh, I had I, they asked for the specific date and time. So I mentioned the text I sent to my husband. That's when they asked me to

[01:04:31] text him screenshots of my texts as evidence. And they ended up using those to open an indecent exposure case on my behalf. We ended up dropping the case, but those screenshots will forever live in the department. Oh my God. Imagine texting your husband, bro. I just saw this.

[01:04:57] Imagine texting the police. Like, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, I had no idea that the cops could call you and they're like, yeah, now like send us that text as evidence. What, what had Carl done? That's what I feel like is missing here. Because did you, did you report it?

[01:05:20] Because it happened again and then the cops called you or was it like, did someone else call the cop? And then the cops were like, oh, let's call the neighbor. Yeah. Let's see what, who else has maybe seen or heard something? Yes. And Carl, I feel like 60 is young. So does Carl need help? I don't know. I just messenger. I need more. I need more. The follow ups here.

[01:05:49] Like why did the cops call you is the biggest or yeah, is the biggest question. What happened with Carl? Is Carl, um, one of the, like a serial killer that like, you know, is living, was living like a normal life. Like the golden state killer that just stopped killing at one point. So many, maybe it's possible. Yeah. I just, I need to know. That's all.

[01:06:15] But yes, that is our anonymous for this week short, but very funny. So I felt like I had to share it with you and thank you messenger for sending the mess in. And again, send your mess in. All right. We need it. And with that, again, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you to everyone for listening. You're on YouTube. Thank you for watching. You know, I had a little, uh, little pictures up for y'all and with that, we at where can the people find you? They can find me on all socials at Pouyaism

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[01:07:39] All right. I can't wait. I will be checking it out. Um, and yes, as for me, of course, you can find me talking daredevil on we know scripted TV with Jason Reed. We this, um, this week we even talked about the Marvel Avengers doomsday cast. It's out baby. I'm so excited. It's going to be so ridiculous. We're so excited. And Jason and I just had the

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